Hi Stephen,

the terms 'lang-po' and 'Camb-po' whatever, (althought eh latter is a
recent post formation), don't beg exclusions so much as problems with
inclusion in any first place.

For example: Jackson MacLow and Clark Coolidge and Bernadette Mayer might,
according to one's broader frames of taste or closer reading of differences
and datelines and suchlike, be seen as either before or part of 'lang-po'.
Likewise, younger poets such as Brian Kim Stefans, Tim David, Jeff Derkson,
Miles Champion, Deanna Ferguson will either be seen as part of that ogrish
monolith or in its wake and idetifiably something different. So name your
poison or poisson on that one.

What, for an example would you do with Teresa Hak Kung Cha's 'Dictee'?

'Misses nothing. Time, that is. All else. All things else.
All other, subject to time. Must answer to time, ex-
cept. Still born. Aborted. Barely. Infant. Seed, germ
sprout, less even. Dormant. Stagnent. Missing.

The decapitated forms. Worn. Marred, recording a
past, of previous forms. The present form face to face
reveals the missing, the absent. Would-be-said
remnant, memory. But the remnant is the whole.

The memory is the entire. The longing in the face of
the lost. Maintains the missing. Fixed between the
wax and wane indefinite not a sign of progress. All
else age, in time. Except. Some are without.'

(Third Woman Press, 1995)

with this text facing a page with a photograph of three
Korean revolutionaries about to shot by a firing squad.

Perhaps 'Cambpo' is indeed distinct from 'Lon-po' as Andrew
Duncan has identified it in some of his most interesting and
provocative critical interventions, namely the introductions
to Angel Exhaust 8 'The Bloodsoaked Royston Perimeter'.

As he himself point out the more one stares at group formation
the more the boundaries that are in the attempt at becoming erected
wobble and become porous. Some terms do stick, as 'lang-po' appears
to be doing in this historical instant. Some are re-examined and
shown to be used only with extreme caution as I believe are the
cases being raised here. Where again might Tom Raworth be positioned?
He has been as valued by and infleuntial on (arguably more so) the
'lang-po' and the 'lon-po', yet his address is often in Camb-po
territory. Is Camb-po a location or a sereis of affiliated states
of mind? blah blah  -  these terms don't work for me and won't
hold.

So, there appears to be an extant argument about the 'I', and an
accusation that these various 'po-s' have abandone it or subjugated
it to theoretical analysis to the point that the I is no more than
a glossary of fashionable exegetic terminologies. Try reading Pope.
Try reading Homer. The hair that appears to be being split here
makes as much and as little sense as any of these other distorting and
false in their unravelling formulations

love and love
cris




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