When Is a full time student Part time?.
There is a pretty clear HESES (Ie HEFCE but admittedly not DfEE)
definition with 24 weeks being the threshold ( otherwise they are
PT in that year). Can't we have consistency?
That won't help repeaters though.
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:25:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: Repeating Students
> From: ws3 <[log in to unmask]>
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> Do I take it that the Dfee now at least agree that students repeating
> only part of the year timewise but in full time registration for that
> part of the year (however short) will get both the fees and the loan?
> Wendy
>
> Sybil Green wrote:
> >
> > We have been told by various sources in the DfEE that students
> > repeating all or part of their first year for the first time are eligible for
> > assistance with tuition fees and this has been construed by several
> > LEAs as applying to students studying less than the usual quota of
> > modules. When the University was in a position to certify eligibility
> > for Student Loans, then on guidance from SLC and DfEE they
> > confirmed that the student was in attendance on a full-time course
> > of study, albeit for part of it, and thus eligible for a Student Loan.
> > At the AMOSSHE Conference, Nina Curley said that such
> > students were not eligible for a Student Loan. She said that they
> > were eligible for benefits as they were part-time students. It was
> > pointed out that this was not the case - they were ineligible for
> > benefits as they had not abandoned, terminated or been excluded
> > from the course. She was going to look into it further.
> >
> > Today I have spoken to Elsie Sellick DfEE who tells me that the
> > DfEE has taken legal advice on Regulation (8) (a) Student Support
> > Regulations and the opinion is that this regulation means that the
> > student must be in full-time attendance, even if this is for part of the
> > year, to be eligible for tuition fee support and Student Loan. So
> > "part of the first year" specifically refers to a period of time rather
> > than part of the full course requirements.
> >
> > So, what are these students supposed to do??
> >
> > Please enlighten me and if Pamela Bell-Ashe has received
> > anything definitive from Nina Curley, I'd be very pleased to know the
> > outcome.
> >
> > Sybil Green
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> > Sybil Green
> > Senior Adviser
> > Dean of Students Office
> > Cardiff University
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