Judith,
I think you will find in the archive that there has been a brief
flurry of emails about this in the general context of the Sunday
Times Good University Guide. I believe we have mostly taken the
view that the Progression PIs are still subject to consultation
and therefore are not for publication yet.
Judy
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Judy Evans
Head of Management Information
University of North London
166-221 Holloway Road
London N7 8DB
tel : 0171 753 5146
fax : 0171 753 5049
email : [log in to unmask]
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:14:25 +0100 "Robertson, Judith M"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Have you had any response from institutions to this e-mail?
> There seems to be a distinct lack of info on admin-planning.
>
> Judith Robertson
> Planning Office University of Essex
> Wivenhoe Park Colchester
> Essex CO4 3SQ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: M Milne-Picken [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 01 July 1999 16:07
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: Sunday Times requests
> >
> > I had a phone call yesterday (Weds 30) from Nick Rodriguez
> (0171 782 > 5656) of the Sunday Times who said he was working on
> an article on the > social class of students and wanted to know
> if we could give him any > data for our institution.
> > > He seemed unaware about the controversy surrounding either
> their own > 'University Guide' (Alistair McCall) or the HEFCE PIs
> data. I took him > through the HEFCE data explaining the
> different tables but told him that > this data was provisional
> and wouldn't be published for several months. > I said I wasn't
> prepared to give him our own figures - although he did > press me
> several times - because the figures were still provisional and >
> in any case one needed to compare like with like. I explained the
> > difference between social class determined by occupation and >
> neighbourhood background determined by postcode, and advised him
> to > contact John Thompson and Judy Akinbolu at HEFCE and also
> Gaie > Davidson-Burnet at UCAS if he wanted data.
> > > I also explained that we believed that our institution had
> been very > successful in recruiting students from lower social
> classes and poorer > backgrounds - but that this would only
> become confirmed when the data > was released in the next few
> months. > Goodness knows what they'll print!
> > > In the light of the response from CVCP and to this list on
> the ST > 'University Guide' request, could anyone reveal whether
> they will > definitely be providing them with 1998-99 updated
> data? >
> > Mike Milne-Picken > Head of Planning
> > University of Central Lancashire > ----------
> > From: [log in to unmask] > To:
> [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask] > Subject:
> RE: Sunday Times requests > Date: 01 July 1999 15:21
> > > As far as I am aware this report was worded as being in
> confidence and > for consultation. Is anyone aware of something
> happening since that I > have missed or left in my intray.
> > > If anyone from the HEFCE sees this can they possibly give
> advice? >
> > > Simon Latham
> > Assistant Planning Officer > University of Surrey
> > 01483 873854 >
> > ---------- > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: 01 July 1999 14:04 > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: Sunday Times requests >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -- --
> > Yes, > I have had numerous e-mails from our PR staff about
> this. HEFCE > produced
> > > some geodemographic data on students, based on HESA data.
> This was back > in September last year, and institutions could
> request the data for > their
> > > own institution, which we duly did. (The HEFCE contact at the
> time was > Mark Corver if you need to follow this up). The
> analysis was postcode > based. Most of the correspondence I have
> seen has been from > institutions
> > > unhappy about the idea of divulging this information given its
> > sensitivity, although there have been admissions of some
> paranoia based > on past dealings with the press.
> > >
> > I think HEFCE were alive to the fact that this was sensitive >
> information, >
> > so this may be why the Sunday Times is approaching indivdual >
> institutions, although I get the impression that HEFCE was
> planning to > publish eventually.
> > >
> > Good Luck! > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PLDJBROA [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday,
> July 01, 1999 5:46 PM > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Sunday Times requests >
> > > At Liverpool John Moores University, in addition to the
> > request for the updated HESA information and the PI data, > the
> Sunday Times have also asked for some data that ALL >
> universities have produced on social class for HEFCE. >
> > > Can anyone shed any light on what it is they are talking
> > about? >
> > > Having just returned from maternity leave and with my
> > line manager on annual leave I am having difficulty > finding
> the information they are refering to. >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jane Broad
> > Planning Officer > Liverpool John Moores University
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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