Thanks to Judy for her comments.
We find ourselves in the strange position that the four entry bands appear
to cover only 45% of our first degree qualifiers.
Stephen Pearson
Director of Planning & Management Services
University of Teesside
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Subject: Re: RE: Guardian Value-Added Data provided by HESA
Susan et al,
I have done a check of our 1998/99 HESA data, currently being
submitted, and if 1998/99 data were being provided to the
Guardian by HESA some 259 of our successful graduates would be
excluded in the Value-Added calculation - despite the fact
that all 259 have entered HE with qualifications other than
either A-levels or the groups HESA has defined, and have exited
with firsts or 2:1 degrees.
Whilst I initially had hopes that the Guardian's proposal for a
Value-Added indicator would lead to a significant improvement to
the current 'quality' of League Tables, this falls lamentably
short of what one could expect. I do not believe this definition
of Value-Added can be sustained.
Judy
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University of North London
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:27:11 +0100 "Atkin, Susan A"
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> Judy,
>
> I totally agree. I haven't had a chance yet to look at the Essex
> data but given that we do take in considerable nos of mature
> students and others on the basis of APL etc, it will almost
> certainly directly affect our figures. I think this is a point
> that should be drawn to attention of Guardian so that they might,
> for example, put in a footnote. However, I understand that the
> first of the table is due to appear tomorrow (28 Sept) so it may
> already be too late.
>
> Sue
>
> Dr Susan Atkin
> Planning Officer University of Essex
> Tel: 01206 872422 Fax: 01206 873082
> Email: [log in to unmask]
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