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Subject:

RE: Sunday Times requests

From:

Julie Williams <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:50:10 GMT0BST

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Just to let you know, Nicola Jackson is on leave and will not return 
until 26 July 1999.
Thanks,



Date:          Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:14:25 +0100
Subject:       RE: Sunday Times requests
From:          "Robertson, Judith M" <[log in to unmask]>
To:            "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-to:      [log in to unmask]

Have you had any response from institutions to this e-mail?  There seems to
be a distinct lack of info on admin-planning.

Judith Robertson
Planning Office
University of Essex
Wivenhoe Park
Colchester
Essex  CO4 3SQ

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	M Milne-Picken [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:	01 July 1999 16:07
> To:	[log in to unmask]
> Subject:	RE: Sunday Times requests
> 
> I had a phone call yesterday (Weds 30) from Nick Rodriguez (0171 782
> 5656) of the Sunday Times who said he was working on an article on the
> social class of students and wanted to know if we could give him any
> data for our institution.
> 
> He seemed unaware about the controversy surrounding either their own
> 'University Guide' (Alistair McCall) or the HEFCE PIs data.  I took him
> through the HEFCE data explaining the different tables but told him that
> this data was provisional and wouldn't be published for several months.
> I said I wasn't prepared to give him our own figures - although he did
> press me several times - because the figures were still provisional and
> in any case one needed to compare like with like.  I explained the
> difference between social class determined by occupation and
> neighbourhood background determined by postcode, and advised him to
> contact John Thompson and Judy Akinbolu at HEFCE and also Gaie
> Davidson-Burnet at UCAS if he wanted data.
> 
> I also explained that we believed that our institution had been very
> successful in recruiting students from lower social classes and poorer
> backgrounds - but that this would only become confirmed when the data
> was released in the next few months.
> Goodness knows what they'll print!
> 
> In the light of the response from CVCP and to this list on the ST
> 'University Guide' request, could anyone reveal whether they will
> definitely be providing them with 1998-99 updated data?
> 
> Mike Milne-Picken
> Head of Planning
> University of Central Lancashire
>  ----------
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: Sunday Times requests
> Date: 01 July 1999 15:21
> 
> As far as I am aware this report was worded as being in confidence and
> for consultation. Is anyone aware of something happening since that I
> have missed or left in my intray.
> 
> If anyone from the HEFCE sees this can they possibly give advice?
> 
> 
> Simon Latham
> Assistant Planning Officer
> University of Surrey
> 01483 873854
> 
>  ----------
> From:  [log in to unmask]
> Sent:  01 July 1999 14:04
> To:  [log in to unmask]
> Subject:  RE: Sunday Times requests
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --  --
> Yes,
> I have had numerous e-mails from our PR staff about this.  HEFCE
> produced
> 
> some geodemographic data on students, based on HESA data.  This was back
> in September last year, and institutions could request the data for
> their
> 
> own institution, which we duly did. (The HEFCE contact at the time was
> Mark Corver if you need to follow this up).  The analysis was postcode
> based.  Most of the correspondence I have seen has been from
> institutions
> 
> unhappy about the idea of divulging this information given its
> sensitivity, although there have been admissions of some paranoia based
> on past dealings with the press.
> 
> 
> I think HEFCE were alive to the fact that this was sensitive
> information,
> 
> so this may be why the Sunday Times is approaching indivdual
> institutions, although I get the impression that HEFCE was planning to
> publish eventually.
> 
> 
> Good Luck!
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: PLDJBROA [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 5:46 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Sunday Times requests
> 
> 
> At Liverpool John Moores University, in addition to the
> request for the updated HESA information and the PI data,
> the Sunday Times have also asked for some data that ALL
> universities have produced on social class for HEFCE.
> 
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on what it is they are talking
> about?
> 
> 
> Having just returned from maternity leave and with my
> line manager on annual leave I am having difficulty
> finding the information they are refering to.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jane Broad
> Planning Officer
> Liverpool John Moores University
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Julie Williams
Academic Registry


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