JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for GP-UK Archives


GP-UK Archives

GP-UK Archives


GP-UK@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

GP-UK Home

GP-UK Home

GP-UK  1998

GP-UK 1998

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Blockin Email: Was Somerset boost monopoly

From:

Ewan Davis <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

[log in to unmask]

Date:

Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:30:11 +0100

Content-Type:

multipart/mixed

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (63 lines) , application/ms-tnef (63 lines)

This is really about a sensible as burning your post in the morning unless you recognise the handwriting on the envelope and is quite on a par with the requirement for a man with a red flag walking in front of a car.

Email is becoming ever more common in the population at large and it is quite impractical to determine in advance who might have a legitimate need to send you an email. Health Authorities are public bodies and I would not accept an Health Authorities refusing to accept email from me than I would of them refusing to accept a letter, fax or phone call. It hardly makes for open government and certainly doesn't fit with the current governments plans to modernise the NHS so I would expect strong support from ministers to deal with email ludites in the NHS.

Junk mail, fax and phone calls are a pain but we have found ways of coping with them and occasional we learn something of value or interest from unsolicited communication. Spam email is also a pain but again there are ways of coping. The low cost of bulk email creates new opportunities for abuse but the technology also provides new tools to counter such abuse. Excluding the well known spammers from your email system and others who regular abuse access will keep the problem down to manageable proportions.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water and don't imagine that the problem of unsolicited communication is a new one unique to email.

Like those who wanted the man with a red flag in front of a car those who want to restrict email are simply frightened and are trying to kill not control the object of the fear. The world may have been a better place in the anti-car lobby had succeeded. I think email is much more benign .

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ewan Davis
AAH Meditel - Voice +44 (1) 527 579414 Fax +44(1)527 837287
Email [log in to unmask] also at [log in to unmask]


-----Original Message-----
From:	Adrian Midgley [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:	Monday, June 29, 1998 11:09 PM
To:	[log in to unmask]
Subject:	Re: Somerset boost monopoly

[log in to unmask],Net writes:
>Interesting isn't it? Cornwall and Scilly need prior approval to allow
>email in - and Somerset won't answer!

It is even cleverer than that!

AFAIK the threat by Somerset was not that they would not answer - in
that NHS Net we are told receives messages from the outside world
adequately well..... through the gateway.

But rather that they would not _send_ any messages to the pariahs who
used the same system as the rest of the world.
I rather think it comes from the same disinformation source as the
story about X400 being the lingua franca for Internet mail handling
among the Unix backbones and what-have-you....

However, the Cornwall and Scilly approach is one that I have some sligh
sympathy with, as long as they combine it with an effective
intelligence and dissemination operation so that once they get an
e-mail address for somebody who _might_ have a need to send them
something, they program it into their gatekeeper.

The beauty of this approach is that they thus create a virtual private
e-mail system, and thus remove one more of the major arguments for
having a special network for the NHS - if one can control message
reception to members of the workgroup, then the size of the internet
becomes irrelevant (it always was of course, but could be made to
appear a factor).

I have a feeling that it is frowned upon to corrupt the RFC 822 rules
by pretending that somebody does not exist and generating RFC 822
messages off the servers back to the originator, but it is quite fair
game to send back an auto reply along the lines of "You are not on
[log in to unmask] 's approved list and your message is returned, ring
1234 567 890 to request a form on which to apply for permission to
message the selfsame panjandrum".

Of course, if C&S HA did that to one of their MPs they might then have
cause to reconsider their approach.  Just a thought<g>

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

March 2024
October 2023
August 2023
June 2023
May 2023
February 2023
June 2022
October 2021
January 2021
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
March 2020
January 2020
December 2019
September 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
March 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997
1996


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager