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Subject:

RE: Primary Care Groups

From:

"Paul Caldwell" <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Thu, 9 Apr 98 14:15:22 UT

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Absolutely right, Midge. Like 85% of the population who's only use of 
democracy is to vote every 5 years, at least they have exercised their right 
to elect someone to represent them. Afterall we all recognise that laws passed 
by MPs are compulsory to everyone. One cannot say "I didn't vote, therefore I 
won't obey/recognise the legitimacy of the laws passed by this gov." The 
message is for PCGs, vote the team you want to represent and manage you, or 
stop moaning about the result if you don't!! Anti-PCGers need reminding that 
this gov has a massive electoral mandate for changing the NHS to a 'third 
way'- a policy central to it's pre-election manifesto.
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From: 	[log in to unmask] on behalf of Adrian Midgley
Sent: 	04 April 1998 15:49
To: 	[log in to unmask]
Subject: 	Re: Primary Care Groups

>From: Peter Wilson <[log in to unmask]>



I think you need to think out what your attitude to PCGs, indeed to 
the management of the health service is.

On the one hand you complain that rationing occurs, and on the other 
hand you wish to disguise, conceal or ignore it.

On the one hand you complain that you are not represented, and on
the other you insist that nobody who is elected can represent you, 
and insist on neither electing anyone to represent you, or having 
them contact you or bemade responsible for contacting you to gather 
your opinion, you object to the workings of the PCG being exposed to 
the public or your peers

You complain about the organisation, the constitution of the PCGs, 
and yet you refuse to participate in setting up an organisation and 
constitution that will satisfy you - 

You are in general denying the legitimacy of anyone elected or 
selected to run things for their peers - and yet, you sign yourself 
as medical manager of a co-op.  HTF do you square that particular 
circle?  Are you an autocrat imposing your agenda upon GPs, or do 
you feel that you were selected by them for that job, and that you 
are open to their suggestions, that you try to give them access to 
all information they might reasonably request or require?

Is there, somewhere in your area, some anarchist revanchist 
fundamentalist no-voter who is telling anyone who will listen that 
you are unrepresentative but that they will never allow anyone else 
to represent them in your stead?  

Is your org run, representatively, without any committees.  If so I 
think I would like to join<g>

I might add that I ssuspect you do a good job and enjoy the support 
of your colleagues, but why do you think the rest of us are greatly 
different.

Now if you came up with lists of things which should not be done at 
present, and are being, and called for these to be stopped, but 
offered ways of doing so short of the reorganisation planned...then 
I would applaud.
--- OffRoad 1.9r registered to Adrian Midgley





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