JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for GP-UK Archives


GP-UK Archives

GP-UK Archives


GP-UK@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

GP-UK Home

GP-UK Home

GP-UK  1998

GP-UK 1998

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Fwd: Telephone Advice to TRs (SW LMC)

From:

[log in to unmask] (Adrian Midgley)

Reply-To:

[log in to unmask]

Date:

Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:02:15 -0000

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (103 lines)

To: <[log in to unmask]>
From: "PETER FELLOWS" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:03:25 +0100

"The SW Regional Association of LMCs met yesterday in Exeter. Cornwall
in
particular has a problem coping with the influx of TRs in summer. We
are all
very angry at the snub to GMSC with Alan Milburn refusing to allow TR
payment
for telephone advice. "

  The manner in which it was done was indeed rather abrupt.

"This not only flies in the face of common sense, and the 
changing style of out of hours care in particular,but it will pose
numerous
problems for both patients and doctors, "

  If Gov is serious about it, and they appear to be, then a 
  simultaneous move to get pateints in Devon on holiday ring their own 
  GP/out of hours service in Birmingham instead of the local GP should 
  occur.

  There are regional implications in this of course, and it would be 
  a pity for us to seem too unwelcoming to tourists...  Make sure 
  the right goat is scaped

"and is a direct challenge to our negotiating strength. 
It is an insult to the profession."

  Indeed.  Never reinforce defeat, counterattack on a flank, surely 
  the Gov has many things we should be expecting the DoH to have 
  sorted out several years ago to concentrate on.
  Indeed, surely the specific (un-named so far, can I have him for 
  my list please)  civil servant who advised Mr Milburn that it was 
  an urgent problem that could easily be sorted could have been 
  expected to have organised the provision of cut sheet FP10s and 
  the revision of the SFA to include paperless practice...

  As to the insult, it is time the 
  profession moved into real-time on planning.  With a Gov that 
  appears to be keen to change the things that should be changed -
  of which we all have lists - it would be a pity to bog down on 
  this.  If we can get up to speed then we might even be able to 
  demonstrate against the abysmal slowness of thought of many HAs
  
"As the money is part of the pool, payment is merely a
redistribution exercise anyway."

  So the evidence to the Review Body, naming being in an area of 
  outstanding natural beauty etc where tourists flock goes in as one 
  of the job weight factors (£60 000 000 available, no)  along with 
  other forms of deprivation and need.

"The gauntlet has been thrown down, and the outcome will have much 
more significance for the future of GMSC as an effective negotiating
body, 
than the issue itself may warrant. "

  Less significance than some.

"The interesting thing was that when this idea was proposed there
seemed to be  
excitement that we might have come up with a realistic way of
empowering the
profession to put the brakes on PCGs, regardless of the outcome over 
telephone advice! "

I do so like honesty and clarity of purpose.  If, and I stress if, 
we want to put the brakes on PCGs, then let us have a motion to put 
the brakes on PCGs.  I think steering is more useful in avoiding 
accidents than brakes, but obviously some form of control is highly 
desirable.
On the other hand if our main contractor has decided not to purchase 
a particular service, let us accept that, and draw the obvious 
conclusions, that along with a national advice line service, 
patients wherever they go remain on our lists and can ring us.  The 
out of hours arrangements make it simpler to remind patients that 
they must _first_ ring their own GP, wherever he is and they are, 
since the Health Minister has decided that that is the way to run 
the NHS.  If we decide that one of our patients needs to see a 
doctor, then let us pass them on to the local controller, to have 
their attendance arranged at the local OoH centre - for which a fee 
remains payable.  Personally I think Mr Milburn decided to buy the 
woring service, and to reduce convenience to pateints, but then if 
the patients become convinced of this, they will tell him.

"Perhaps it is indeed time for a  national ballot on the whole idea of
cooperating with the White Paper, until such time as proper funding and
security for GP income is gauranteed."

I am in favour of motherhood, applepie, and proper funding of GPs.
At a stroke of course one could reduce the iniquities and paperwork 
by setting a base income for GPs amounting to say 2/3 of the current 
net intended amount, and just paying it for being in practice...


--- OffRoad 1.9r registered to Adrian Midgley


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

March 2024
October 2023
August 2023
June 2023
May 2023
February 2023
June 2022
October 2021
January 2021
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
March 2020
January 2020
December 2019
September 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
March 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997
1996


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager