Hi List
I though I’d put parts of this front channel. Derbyshire is still around
writing some wierd sonnet sequence about Balloon, which is an homage to
Middleton. He knew Rukeyser too. Yes I did work at Lewd and Crude, and
used to make tea for Dimpnah before she moved to Cambridge. Feels like
I’m following you, Dimpnah. All fascinating stuff. Takes me back to the
days of my yoof . . . An excellent list Peter!
Subject: Re: Re: Neglect
>Date: Tues, 04 Aug 1998 06:29:07 -0700
>From: Paul Ullmeyer <[log in to unmask] >
>To: Greg Feloney <[log in to unmask]>
>
>Paul Ullmeyer wrote:
>
>I absolutely agree, Greg, Peter’s list is excellent but gappy, the
>Manchester crew altho’ pernicious, was not in any sense
>'colonial'
>about its punkish aperçus. There was the Warehouse stuff but
>an
>iconoclastic uberfest was not the original intention. Cite
>Bannerjee if you must, but Ngiri was not an amicable enterprise
>as you seem to be suggesting. Indeed there was a link, but
>Debbie would know that even if she prefers to forget. Burke’s
>recidivist tendencies were sufficient to disclose the gangster
>undercurrents, but no more than Kasprowicz; he really did
>smuggle drugs from the Ukraine in the 70s.
>
>>>Subject: Re: More Neglect
>>>Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 08:32:07 -0300
>>>From: Dimpnah Soil <[log in to unmask] >
>>>To: Paul Ullmeyer <[log in to unmask] >
>>>
>>>Dimpnah Soil wrote:
>>>
>>>Paul, here’s the breakdown of Nbono, I think Peter’s list
>>>missed him off, but that’s not surprising, there’s a symposium
>>>on Nbono at Wolfson later this year. Did Ric know him too?
>>>
>>>Daniel Nbono started the Kraken Press and Skunk Pocket in
>>>the
>>>early 70s; published amongst others, Sheila Mongan and
>>>Letitia
>>>Kane. Nbono spent a lot of time with Denzil Mates and Karl
>>>Oruba at Ngiri Press. Oruba works with Sol Lewis now in
>>>Nigeria, but his sister Brenda does work with The Solution
>>>Press
>>>in Whitechapel, Leeds. I think she did a reading from
>>>‘skidpooldripfunk’, 1989, last year at Leeds University:
>>>
>>> I int aksin fer innitin
>>> no tools are set fer nuttin here
>>> made mad at your nuclear
>>> fission, in prison wit derision of yer senses
>>> tho I done chuckin waste fer this pair
>>> an hadn got no child as fair fer chickin
>>> ass ave got no university, all we’ve got is death
>>> from yer fuckin adversity
>>
>
>Greg, this is amazing, how on earth did Dimpnah find this out? I
>take it Dimpnah knows Peter Riley? There was a major change
>in Ngiri’s output after the Somali immigrants hit Liverpool.
>Wasn’t there some kind of conversion involved, did he become
>Nation of Islam or something? Can you backchannel me that?
>
>>Thnx, Dimpnah, here’s more from the Moon Notes piece
>>
>>Nbono wrote “Any Chance of Children, Woman?” 1984, and
>>“Mesopotamia”, 1989, but his work dried up and he works in
>>a
>>bar on Oldham Street in Manchester. Here’s something from
>>Mesopatamia in the ‘Sink City, Sink’ sequence:
>>
>>
>> Company is just
>>
>> That included details
>> -ational facilities and
>> even be able
>> in the corporate
>> to cap it
>> -ism world peace
>> on this motto
>> intervening years is
>> national governments in
>> began to take
>> to each other
>> Ken, Tom and
>> sadly governments now
>> corporations what’s worrying
>> last week when
>> on the state
>> any more not
>> the shareholders’ $95,000
>> who’s to say
>> fruit? Well with
>> you will be
>> is that few
>> those that do
>> company is just
>>
>
>Mesopatamia was ‘performed’ at MIT last year. Frankl, Pierce,
>Burne, Siegal and Payne all cited it as a a MAJOR influence but
>you can only find small segments in Wayne’s “Make the
>Purchase” anthology. ‘Wanker, Wanker’ appeared in a
>>Greywolf book in 1993: “Scally: North English Poetry of the
>>early
>Eighties”. This was inciteful but politically inept as Martins (do
>you remember his awful book on Rukeyser?) fails
>to make a credible connection with his entelechy theory. I found
>this weak and poorly written.
>
>>Scratch Pocket aka Elaine Marie Burke who formed the
>>FannyLickinBeltWhippers in Ancoats and did the Kill All Men
>>series with Denise Lucas and Dimpnah Soil. There was a series
>>of chapbooks from Lewd and Crude where Chris worked.
>>Greg Feloney visited
>>Scratch after a tour with John Ash before Disbelief came out.
>>There was a fantastic pamphlet titled “Pug” that was a cut up of
>>narratives about Engels in Manchester. Valerie Krill reported
>>that
>>Ginsberg said it was “all prophecy, all prophecy . . .” Hi
>>Valerie if
>>your still reading the list! Scatch’s only book was self published
>>with help from Martin Derbyshire, here’s White Cock:
>>
>> White cock, & love your white cock, Cottonopolis
>> beat me, tanning tanning (simple flames in the chooser)
>> establishment / / cement, Belsen brood O shuttle
>> beat me cos Daddy’s not suckin the river cane of sabres
>> your breath or spike anger (**) in the flood of Peter Street
>> all locks in the loom tame skinnets, dream the spangle
>> Irwell &
>> yellow Irwell, & Irk ?? [-%-] ginnnels reined with berserk
>> minotaurs (all of my fish) racket, racket
>>
>>Martin Derbyshire, (remember his interview in Encounter!)
>> who
>
>I do indeed, there was a danger in his internationalism, and his
>pro-Angolan views were disturbing, too. His translation of David
>Banthu was outrageous considering his war crimes. I don’t agree
>that poetry rises above this. I still see Sanjit, he was working with
>Sharon Olds (of all people) but does’t write much now.
>
>>ran Lemon Magazine from ’81 to ’83 and introduced
>>Omparkash Bannerjee and Sanjit Chatwallerjee. They did
>>several
>>tours in Bradford with the punk poets Scag Neuter. There was
>>a recording of them made at Selcote Studios. I think that Tony
>>Pritchard has some of their work still at Puke Press in
>>Cheetham
>>Hill, Manchester. Bannerjee married Sue Belling after she split
>>up from Ronny Harris. Ronny worked at Freemantle Press, I
>>think that John Kinsella knows him? Hi John.
>>
>>Lastly, I’d vote for Vinnie Bates, who really did tour with
>Asbery
>>on a visit to Carcanet when Michael Schmidt was but a young
>>avocado farmer. Vinnie died of a heroin overdose in ’78, but
>>his
>
>Er, I don’t think Ashbery knew Bates well, they did some work
>together on “All Modern Pagodas”, but it didn’t come off.
>You’ve heard that Ashbery caught food poisoning in Gorton? He
>reputedly had potato soup at the Irish Club and drank four pints
>of Theakston’s Old Peculiar, which incidentally is on tap at Ray’s
>115 West 57th!
>
>>work was pretty much complete by then. He was an immigrant
>>labourer from County Armagh, born, I think in 1949, he
>>worked in New York as a builder but did a lot of writing with
>>Angie Weinhart and Bruce Dein. His first UK publication was
>>“Low Zones” Bleed Them Dry Press 1975, from which I
>>cannot extract a meaningful
>>excerpt, but is well worth obtaining. Vinnie did a spell in
>>prison
>>in Leeds after his illness set in. I think he married Dimpnah
>>Soil,
>>though I could be wrong.
>>
>
>Bruce Dein died last year, he did revisit Leeds and Bolton as part
>of his course at Colombia. His first wife Cynthia is writing
>something on Chase Twitchell. I don’t think Dimpnah ever
>married? I’ll ask her when I’m up at Churchill next week.
>
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All the best,
Chris
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