Thanks for yours, robin. Your own response to Penrose
is very interesting to me, in light of the re-reading
of Plant-Time Transcripts I did to answer Doug's post;
there's this one giddy impetus in P-T T: to place
Sheldrake as, after all, at one in one respect with
those to whom he's heretic: that's very like what I
read as your point, although it's couched in Prynne as
time periods drawing the plant back and forward across
epochal distances (how it might have in earlier epoch,
how it might in future) indeed, combatting and inflecting
the plant's habit of getting into a sedimenting rhythm of
growth through current velocity per second (excuse this
simplification) given the rate of acceleration per second
per second of the current sidereal epoch. And then
there's that epoch's gravitational pushes and pulls
on and at different vectors in the universe at that
epoch. This Prynne vision counters the sort of unchanging
grid space true in all epochs vision in a lot of the
biological science Sheldrake opposes yet is in Sheldrake
himself. My problem with the moral geometry of P-T T
remains that the powerful excited *emotional* rush I
for one feel in Prynne's rhythm at this impetus (to
join Sheldrake with the non-Sheldrakes) betrays him
into either freudian or just careless slips into
sexism: which if they are slips reveal that he doesn't
foresee a (female) readership that'll call him on it.
Incidentally, an astrological gloss on P-T T
(which was in my head and helped me to see Prynne's)
would be to examine the cell growth of certain
dissidences-later-to-become orthodoxies in social
discourse in the Age of Aries (including Graeco-Roman
and Old Testament Judaic), the Age of Pisces (Xtian),
the Age of Aquarius (whatever we are entering, have
entered). An astrologer might say that a person born
with a lot of influences from Aquarius was more out of
kilter in the Age of Pisces, finding it harder to grow,
growing warped, thus neither clearly oppositional at the
time (for fear of persecution) nor simply a voice for now
born too soon at the time. She or me are still odd for those
in the Age of Aquarius unless expertly seen in all her
or his defensive posture (some would have it that Christ
was a Taurean, guiding the beginning of the Age of Pisces,
but drew on a reading of things defensively postured in
Greek thinkers out of step in the Age of Aries) etc etc.
Prynne mentions sidereal time, and even astrology, but
I suspect less wholeheartedly than I do. Anyway.

Ira




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