At 10:52 AM 7/7/97 +0100, you wrote:
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>First of all, before I attempt to answer Mary's query, I must confess to
>being one of the dormant members of the list since I joined a couple of
>months ago, so I should really introduce myself briefly.
> I work on 16th and 17th century Italian religious literature -
>specifically the various genres which went to make up `Historia sacra'
>including: saints' lives, ecclesiastical histories (local, regional and
>universal) and the liturgical service books. My book-length study of the
>subject is called LITURGY, SANCTITY AND HISTORY IN TRIDENTINE ITALY:
>PIETRO MARIA CAMPI AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE PARTICULAR (Cambridge
>UP, Cambridge, 1995). Those interested who have not got the time or
>inclination to sample the whole thing might like to read the five-page
>summary of it given by D. Fenlon in the April 1997 issue of THE CATHOLIC
>HISTORICAL REVIEW under the title: `Rewiring the circuit: Campi's
>Reformation'.
>As an extension of my interest in how people represent the past to
>themselves I am also interested in the area of Public history and heritage
>and currently run a project called HERITAGE STUDIES AS APPLIED HISTORY
>(www.york.ac.uk/depts/hist/heritage/heritage.htm. There is also an email
>discussion group at [log in to unmask]) the
>international (and specifically Italian) dimension of which I am keen to
>develop.
>
>Returning to Mary's query. The obvious place to start, if you know the
>name of the peer and the approximate date/year when this exchange might
>have happened is HANSARD - the official verbatim record of parliamentary
>debates in both houses. Finding such a passage manually would be like
>trying to locate a needle in the proverbial haystack but if it is
>available on CD-Rom then the keyword search facility would make things
>much simpler. Unfortunately I do not know whether it is available in this
>format. So I might have raised your hopes unjustifiably, Mary. Good luck!
>
>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, MARY K. REFLING wrote:
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>> I need help with an anecdote from the annals of the House of Lords. I
>> heard it from a linguistics professor years back but don't remember the
>> details.
>>
>> Two members of parliament were engaged in a debate during which the first
>> insulted the second in a particularly vicious manner, and the second
>> demanded (or the first was ordered to give) an apology. The apology went
>> like this:
>>
>> "I called the Right Honorable Lord So-and-So a liar it is true and I am
>> sorry for it. And the Right Honorable Lord So-and-So may punctuate as he
>> pleases."
>>
>> Do any of you have any idea where I might find a record of this anecdote
>> and who the individuals involved were?
>>
>> Since there are a lot of members of the UK on this list, I thought it
>> might be a good place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mary Refling
>> Department of Italian
>> Columbia University
>> New York, NY 10027
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>>
>>
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>
Have you tried: _The Oxford Book of Parliamentary Anecdotes_?>
Richard Kay
Department of History
University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS USA 66045-2130
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