On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Edward Barrow wrote:
> A time limitation on cacheing is reasonable: Web pages are dynamic works
> and may change. The CLA copyright page has now changed (the time limit
> is increased from 7 to 30 days); someone with a long-term cache or will
> still be operating under the old terms.
I didn't see any Expires headers in the documents from your server; how
exactly is the cache mesh supposed to know that it shouldn't cache for
more than 30 days? Human readable stuff isn't much use unless its backed
up with the machine readable version that the cache's can process. Still
30 days is very reasonable and much makes you a much better network
citizen than some sites I could mention (step forward Microsoft for
instance).
> A prohibition on viewing the source is unrealistic only because it is
> unenforceable; it isn't intrinsically unreasonable. Regular use with a
> browser shouldn't require viewing the source.(except diehard telnet
> users...)
:-)
> Some sites manage to restrict it technically; I haven't found out how -
> if you look at the MSNBC site at http://msnbc.com for example, "view
> source" is greyed out in Netscape.
Before all the eLib's jump about in glee at finding a way of disabling
view source in the worlds most popular browser I think I ought to rain on
the parade by saying that View Document Source in Netscape 3.01 for SunOS
4.1.4 works fine. The lines are very long though which might be causing a
problem for Netscape on PCs?
> As copies must be
> made in order to view the page, these notices effectively prohibit any
> viewing. IMHO it's better to have a clear copyright statement, with a
> hotlink from every page, than no copyright statement at all or a
> self-defeating one taken verbatim from a book.
I think life would be much simpler if you had to have a copyright
statement on works if you were claiming your rights and wanted to
license/prevent copying, as opposed to the current situation where
everything is implicitly copyrighted but few people realise it. Would
WIPO go for that idea?
Tatty bye,
Jim'll
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Jon "Jim'll" Knight, Researcher, Sysop and General Dogsbody, Dept. Computer
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* I've found I now dream in Perl. More worryingly, I enjoy those dreams. *
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