I too found the origin of this thread a sane moment perhaps. However the tiff
on list thing with Orpheus, who would no doubt fall under the 'troll' category
on other lists for some of you/us/them, is mild stuff compared to the extent to
which these things can get fully out of hand. But thass no wat I wan a say.
R I Caddel (sorry, don't know 'names' etc so at best I would reduce you to 'R'
or surname formality) said
> That's why I raised the point about professionalism: the long-term
> commitment you find in so many members of this list, which perhaps
> mitigates against abilities to join in generalised gushes. You won't -
> other than by "chance" - get a good talk about clarinet making from a
> violin maker.
and this 'seperation' between poetries, something I had (naively I suppose) not
really dwelt on before was brought home. But, how far is this valid - is there
not an over-riding similiarity such that the, to stretch your analogy,
instrument maker can discuss instrument making, for example in relation to
form/sound, with any other instrument maker, despite varying specialities.
Indeed without the dialogue between the hearer/player/maker in the
instrumentation process presumably we'd all be listening to machine turned
boredom best constructed with algorithmic models of sound/form relationships,
or whatever other confounded machine-talk fits here, or else a cacophonous
ensemble of disparate sounds that don't quite make 'music'.
> Whatever qualities I see in other writers (H&H, Cobbing,
> Bernstein, Creeley, Prynne, Raworth, Niedecker, Howe, Bunting, Fishers A
> and R etc) their long-term impact on the way I work is is either
> calculably or incalculably low.
In particular this comment struck me as odd (not _as_ odd, just striking me as
such) when I find other texts so crucial in some ways, though I perhaps see
that what I try to write up bears little necassary relationship to styles,
though often much to themes. Perhaps I am just novice-like still and have this
lack to learn.
Anyhow, in the spirit of humour and good will (please, I promise!), that's me
for now
ttfn
matt
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