Jon Wilcox wrote:
>
> In reply to Graham Ross'reference to depression and separation ----
>
> +Similarly if caused by marital
> +probelms, maybe bringing teh marriage to an end is the answer rather
> +than soldiering on in a life that makes the patient "depressed"
> +(certainly the case for victims of marital violence who often enter
> the
> +ranks of the "depressed").
>
> This fashionable attitude from solicitors and counsellors (many of the
> latter from failed marriages of their own) of bailing out of a
> marriage because of a bad patch rather than seeking a
> communications-based proactive solution
eh...is this anything similar to a quaint old practice that we in this
little sector of the Milky Way call "talking"?
At any rate it must be above drugs in the pecking order so I'm with you
on that.
> Often the reason for their marriage failures I believe are
> depression-induced and communication related and partly due to the
> stresses and "isolationism" of family living in modern society.
> Chucking in the marriage is the easy way out, when very often the root
> problem is primary depression (Mr Ross please note!)
I've noted it down thanks. But forgive me for saying this but I think
you're practising a Communications Based Proactive Solution through your
rear. You make depression sound like some bug you can just catch which
then becomes the root cause of everything that goes wrong until a few
pills put it right. I can see the posters. "Just when you thought it was
safe to go back to the surgery and have a good old moan....'Benzo
II'".(Maybe in New Zealand you have not heard about the Valium causes
untold riches to lawyers story).
BTW, if you read my posting I never suggested not trying to save failing
marriages. Simply that calling it "depression" and giving out pills was
not necessarily the way. Not only does it deny other opportunities to
help the patient and their family, but, in giving the patients a "real
illness" it gives them an excuse for a negative attitude ("it was not my
fault..such a tragedy...I was suffering from ..(dramatic
music).....depression..(at which point everybody jumps two paces back
and covers their mouths").
> More and more I now contemplate bypassing the State and private
> counselling services for the Church-based services in conjunction with
> pharmacotherapy where appropriate.
Have you thought about the church without the pills? I seem to think it
worked once.Or have I got it wrong again? Oh, no, don't tell me when
they give out the Holy Communion followed by a swig of a drink, that
what they are really getting is...oh no I can't bear to think about it.
>Sure, trial separations are often
> warranted and very often extremely temporary. And sometimes they do
> bring about a permanent separation to the benefit of all three parties
> - husband, wife and kids.
I think gp-uk and I need one. Don't all shout at once.
Graham Ross
ALeRT (but not on Sunday mornings)
http://www.alertuk.com
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