I would agree with Tom and Iain. By framing this skillset within a definition of ’someone who draws’, we remove notions of special mystical talent, of a province only open to the trained professional. This allows for everyone/anyone to take up the call to craft images in much the same way that we do not have to be considered specialist in order to record thoughts in writing.
Fun discussion — I enjoy how it goes quiet — then reemerges again!
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> I refer to myself as ‘someone who draws’ because it focuses on the person who does it whilst avoiding confusion with furniture. It also gets away from all the socio-cultural baggage around the title of ‘artist’
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> > Although Graphic Artist as a title has a history of being thought of as an applied art. Applied Art in turn has a history of be thought of as a step down from Fine Art. This is the trouble with qualifying Artist with any other word. The whole question pivots on what the value is of sectioning artistic practice. Once one has a lable its hard to shake it off. And with a title comes Entitlement and the expectations that go with that
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> > It’s a great discussion and following with interest. The term Graphic Artist also seems very useful and ties in additionally with discussions on Literacy, Graphicacy and Numeracy as a proper basis for learning and development. I’m not expert on this but as I understand it graphicacy includes both drawing and handwriting, so is wider than the oft quoted Three “R”s which omit drawing … All best Jennie Speirs Grant Dr J.S.Grant mafa mag mrss Newcastle upon Tyne From: The UK drawing research network mailing list <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Mark Clay
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> > Subject: Re: [DRAWING-RESEARCH] [DRAWING-RESEARCH] DRAWING-RESEARCH Digest - 5 Jan 2021 to 6 Jan 2021 (#2021-4) Greetings to all, from Oxford UK. I have much enjoyed following this discussion and thank you for all your interesting contributions. For me, I too think there is great interest in thinking about the possibilities in the word "graph", its etymology and its extensions. Graph comes from the ancient greek word meaning "writing", hence an autograph is one's own writing (or a document written in it). For me, writing and drawing have a deep-rooted kinship (both practically and intellectually), so I am interested in the possibilities of the work "graphic", and especially in the idea that it might be reclaimed or repurposed for drawing practitioners from the realm of graphic design and/or what one might loosely call computer based creativity (not that I have anything against either of those). In that sense, I wonder if "graphic artist" might be a suitable name. It's other attraction for me is that is rightly ungendered, unlike many of the English word options we have already touched upon. Best wishes,
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