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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:24:13 -0500
> From:    Venantius J Pinto <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: An interview of a friends drawing practice which may interest some of you!
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> Hello all!
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> Allow me to take an opportunity to share an interview, of my friend Mo
> Riza: Frank, revealing, and inspiring, providing a sense of his process!
> See, comment and consider sharing. I know it will help others find their
> inner id! :)
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> La entrevista muy franca, reveladora e inspiradora de mi amigo Mo Riza que
> da una idea de su proceso.
> Ver, comentar y considerar comparti¡Sé que ayudará a otros a encontrar su
> identidad interior!
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> An Interview with Mo Riza
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> by Lisa LorrainH of @thecreativejung!
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:33:39 -0500
> From:    Andrea Kantrowitz <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: What do you call someone who draws?
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> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.)
> draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any
> suggestions?
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> Thanks so much!
> Andrea
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:43:01 +0000
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> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> I usually describe myself as a drawer or a drawing-based artist. 
> Look forward to seeing how others describe themselves!
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>    On Monday, 21 December 2020, 16:33:53 CET, Andrea Kantrowitz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
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> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
> Thanks so much!Andrea
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> Dr. Andrea KantrowitzGraduate Program CoordinatorAssistant ProfessorArt Education
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:50:01 +0000
> From:    Lucy Lyons <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> Hi AndreaI say drawer too!Best wishes
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>  On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 15:33, Andrea Kantrowitz<[log in to unmask]> wrote:   I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
> Thanks so much!Andrea
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:43:01 -0500
> From:    Merrie Koester <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> Hi, Andrea!
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> I have so enjoyed getting reconnected with TtD, having recently participated in the Dec. 5th workshop.  Having a heart and lung condition, I have been in pandemic prison.  To draw with Angie, Michelle, Gogan, and others was a beautiful thing indeed. 
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> I wonder if the term “graphic renderer”  (or just renderer), could work.
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> Hope you are well and happy!
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> Best,
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> Merrie
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> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
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> Thanks so much!
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> Andrea
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:26:49 +0000
> From:    Berry Daines <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> Drawist? I was in a conversation about drawers or picturesmiths or linearologists the other day. In the 1980s some liked to be concept visualisers.
>    On Monday, 21 December 2020, 15:33:53 GMT, Andrea Kantrowitz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
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> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
> Thanks so much!Andrea
> 
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:33:10 +0000
> From:    Kiera O'Toole <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> I refer to myself as a 'mark maker' or drawer
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>> Drawist? I was in a conversation about drawers or picturesmiths or
>> linearologists the other day. In the 1980s some liked to be concept
>> visualisers.
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>> On Monday, 21 December 2020, 15:33:53 GMT, Andrea Kantrowitz <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.)
>> draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> Andrea
>> 
>> 
>> Dr. Andrea Kantrowitz
>> Graduate Program Coordinator
>> Assistant Professor
>> Art Education
>> SUNY New Paltz
>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>> 
>> <http://www.andreakantrowitz.com/>
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:27:48 +0000
> From:    Howard Riley <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> Faced with the same problem, I opted for ‘Drawer’, capitalised to indicate a person rather than a sliding storage unit!
> Howard
> (Also avoids the smutty connotation of the uncapitalised plural)
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>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 15:50, Lucy Lyons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi Andrea
>> I say drawer too!
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Lucy
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>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 15:33, Andrea Kantrowitz
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> Andrea
>> 
>> 
>> Dr. Andrea Kantrowitz
>> Graduate Program Coordinator
>> Assistant Professor
>> Art Education
>> SUNY New Paltz
>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:32:07 +0000
> From:    Joy Mower <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> Draw-er? With or without the hyphen it has two syllables which may also also differentiate it from the sliding thing that Howard referred to!
> I do like mark maker too though.
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> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
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> Thanks so much!
> Andrea
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:32:37 +0000
> From:    Lynn Imperatore <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
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> Yes, the sliding storage always comes to mind…but also with my native NY/NJ accent it is not the easiest word to say.
> So I avoid ‘drawer', while still lacking the proverbial ‘better word’. I tend to say that I have a drawing practice.
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> I guess we’re people who draw?
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>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 5:27 pm, Howard Riley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Faced with the same problem, I opted for ‘Drawer’, capitalised to indicate a person rather than a sliding storage unit!
>> Howard
>> (Also avoids the smutty connotation of the uncapitalised plural)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Swansea College of Art, University of Wales Trinity St David, Wales, UK
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Howard_Riley
>> https://howardriley.wordpress.com
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>>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 15:50, Lucy Lyons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> Hi Andrea
>>> I say drawer too!
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Lucy
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>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 15:33, Andrea Kantrowitz
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> Andrea
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr. Andrea Kantrowitz
>>> Graduate Program Coordinator
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Art Education
>>> SUNY New Paltz
>>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>> 
>>> AndreaKantrowitz.com
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:36:57 -0500
> From:    Seymour Simmons <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Hi Andrea and everyone,
> This is a tough question! I've gone with 'draftsperson' mostly but it is
> awkward. Maybe Howard's solution is the best, but lately I've been finding
> myself capitalizing too many other words. Anyway, I'm enjoying the
> conversation!
> 
> Best wishes to one and all for a safe and happy holiday season, and may
> 2021 be a better year in every way!
> Seymour
> 
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:28 PM Howard Riley <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Faced with the same problem, I opted for ‘Drawer’, capitalised to
>> indicate a person rather than a sliding storage unit!
>> Howard
>> (Also avoids the smutty connotation of the uncapitalised plural)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Professor Emeritus Howard Riley PhD MA(RCA) CertDes FRSA FHEA
>> Swansea College of Art, University of Wales Trinity St David, Wales, UK
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Howard_Riley
>> https://howardriley.wordpress.com
>> 
>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 15:50, Lucy Lyons <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andrea
>> I say drawer too!
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Lucy
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>> 
>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 15:33, Andrea Kantrowitz
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.)
>> draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> Andrea
>> 
>> 
>> Dr. Andrea Kantrowitz
>> Graduate Program Coordinator
>> Assistant Professor
>> Art Education
>> SUNY New Paltz
>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>> 
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 20:08:26 +0000
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Hello all, 
> For me - re. Berry's email below, and in general - context would be important. Draughts man/woman/person implies something different to artist/someone who draws? 
> 
> Marianne
> 
> ... 
> Marianne
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berry Daines <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:28
> Subject: Re: [DRAWING-RESEARCH] What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Drawist? I was in a conversation about drawers or picturesmiths or linearologists the other day. In the 1980s some liked to be concept visualisers.
>    On Monday, 21 December 2020, 15:33:53 GMT, Andrea Kantrowitz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
> 
> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
> Thanks so much!Andrea
> 
> Dr. Andrea KantrowitzGraduate Program CoordinatorAssistant ProfessorArt Education
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:22:54 +0000
> From:    Marian Macken <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Could 'draughter' be an option? This has been used widely in the industry.
> 
> cheers
> Marian
> ________________________________
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> Subject: Re: [DRAWING-RESEARCH] What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Hello all,
> For me - re. Berry's email below, and in general - context would be important. Draughts man/woman/person implies something different to artist/someone who draws?
> 
> Marianne
> 
> ...
> Marianne
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berry Daines <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:28
> Subject: Re: [DRAWING-RESEARCH] What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Drawist? I was in a conversation about drawers or picturesmiths or linearologists the other day. In the 1980s some liked to be concept visualisers.
> 
> On Monday, 21 December 2020, 15:33:53 GMT, Andrea Kantrowitz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.) draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks so much!
> Andrea
> 
> 
> Dr. Andrea Kantrowitz
> Graduate Program Coordinator
> Assistant Professor
> Art Education
> SUNY New Paltz
> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
> 
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> Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:04:48 -0700
> From:    mohammad moezzi <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What do you call someone who draws?
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Marian's idea of "draughter" seems interesting. Could we also use "*d*
> *rafter*"?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Mohammad Moézzi
> 
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:33 PM Marian Macken <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Could '*draughter*' be an option? This has been used widely in the
>> industry.
>> 
>> cheers
>> Marian
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>> *From:* The UK drawing research network mailing list <
>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of [log in to unmask] <
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>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:08 AM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DRAWING-RESEARCH] What do you call someone who draws?
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> For me - re. Berry's email below, and in general - context would be
>> important. Draughts man/woman/person implies something different to
>> artist/someone who draws?
>> 
>> Marianne
>> 
>> ...
>> Marianne
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Berry Daines <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:28
>> Subject: Re: [DRAWING-RESEARCH] What do you call someone who draws?
>> 
>> Drawist? I was in a conversation about drawers or picturesmiths or
>> linearologists the other day. In the 1980s some liked to be concept
>> visualisers.
>> 
>> On Monday, 21 December 2020, 15:33:53 GMT, Andrea Kantrowitz <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm looking for a general non-gendered term.  (ie sub for draughtsman.)
>> draughtsperson is way too cumbersome.  I'm using "drawer" for now.  any
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> Andrea
>> 
>> 
>> Dr. Andrea Kantrowitz
>> Graduate Program Coordinator
>> Assistant Professor
>> Art Education
>> SUNY New Paltz
>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>> 
>> <http://www.andreakantrowitz.com>
>> AndreaKantrowitz.com <http://www.andreakantrowitz.com/>
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