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Re: Poor map after Bayesian polishing

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Takanori Nakane <[log in to unmask]>

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Takanori Nakane <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 27 Dec 2020 07:38:14 +0000

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Hi,

This depends on the target: what fraction of the molecule
is flexible? What is the resolution of the rigid and flexible regions?
This point was discussed in this mailing list before; please study
the archive.

My default strategy is to perform Polishing on consensus refinement
before extensive classification and subtraction but admittedly
I don't work on very flexible proteins.

Best regards,

Takanori Nakane

On 2020/12/26 19:50, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
> Hi Takanori,
> 
> I have a related question. What if part of my molecule is really flexible? In this case performing bayesian polishing on the more rigid part after 
> subtraction should capture the true motion of the entire particle, no? Unless you mean that the way bayesian polishing is implemented does not account 
> for subtracted particles, in this case, would passing a postprocess star file with a mask centered  on the more rigid part of the particle be an 
> acceptable compromise?
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 1:27 PM Takanori Nakane <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     You cannot perform Bayesian Polishing on subtracted maps.
> 
>     Your particles in raw movies are "full", while your reference maps
>     are subtracted. The comparison is not consistent.
> 
>     Best regards,
> 
>     Takanori Nakane
> 
>     On 2020/12/25 19:02, Shanti Pal Gangwar wrote:
>      > Hi All,
>      > I am doing a focused refinement on the subtracted particles.
>      > 3D Refinement and CTF refinement (Beam Tilt/Defocus) on these subtracted particles improved the map significantly. However, Bayesian Polishing
>      > followed by 3D refinement did yield an extremely poor quality map (resolution dropped 2X). Any help would be appreciated.
>      >
>      > All the processing steps were done in RELION 3.1.
>      > Happy Holidays.
>      >
>      > Best
>      > Shanti Pal
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
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