Dear Paul and all,
one more literature recommendation.
After our book ‘Sustainable Solutions’ that we put together end of the 1990ies Martin Charter from the Centre for Sustainable Design in the UK started the quarterly Journal of Sustainable Product Design.
Some of the issues are still available via Springer:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A%3A1017316024086
And that was 20 years ago !
(By the way the Centre for Sustainable Design was established in 1995).
Best regards
Ursula
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> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 00:48:53 +0000
> From: Paul Russell <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: response to Paul Russel on Design for Sustainability
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> Dear Ursula,
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> Telling someone to "just Google something" implies such a level of ignorance of a subject that they could "just Google it" to educate themselves. I'm not ignorant of the sustainability literature, which is only a small part of the bigger point being made anyway.
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> I will check your 2001 source later, but it is exactly Bhamra and Lofthouse, 2007 that I was referring to when I said it was the mid-late 2000s that was the turning point for when sustainable design is considered to contain the social element. It is the source cited for that point in the literature thereon also, e.g. the paper link I posted, so not just my opinion. I have no desire to get into a semantic debate but I don't think 13 years classifies as "many decades" personally.
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> D4S at Delft was published and disseminated in 2009 too, not 2005. Even more recently than Bhamra and Lofthouse, 2007.
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> This is really all quite irrelevant though, it's a small part of a bigger point for which there is clearly support for. If you think what I proposed is "just sustainable design" then I disagree. It seems others can see how it builds on top of that. I've clearly stated in not claiming to have devised the elements contained within the concept either - only to collate and formalise them. Something which Papanek never did, had he done so and communicated it perhaps it would have gathered momentum easier.
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> References in your first response would have been appropriate and welcomed, rather than being told to Google something. This is an academic forum and hence it seems appropriate to write academically in our messages. Take this how you will.
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> Best regards,
> Paul Russell
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> OMG Paul,
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> I am sorry that you feel insulted, but I just suggested to google the term because there is so much good literature about it out there and some of it dates back a couple pf decades.
> So yes, it is actually an „old“ term and a long standing field of research and practice….
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> E.G. my design agency : econcept agency for sustainable design was founded in 1996….
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> Here a couple of literature suggestions for you in chronological order:
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> Tischner, U./ Charter, M. (Hrsg.) (2001): Sustainable Solutions, U.Tischner, M. Charter (Hrsg.), Greenleaf Publishing, Sheffield
> In this book we wrote for instance:
> Sustainable Product Design is more than eco-design
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> At present, where sustainability is considered in product development and design, it is typically regarded as the same as eco-design. But Sustainable Product Design (SPD) is more than eco-design, as it integrates social and ethical aspects of the product’s life cycle alongside environmental and economic considerations – aiming for the so called ‘triple bottom line’.
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> And we defined Design for Sustainability in the simplest sense as being good for the planet good for people (as many people as possible) and creating value for as many people as possible. So it combines environmental socio-cultural and economic dimensions in the design briefings and in the design activities. It seeks to develop sustainable solutions following the UN definition of sustainability..
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> That was back in 2000 = 20 years ago and we were not the first talking/ writing about this…
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> Later books that I recommend are e.g.:
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> Design for Sustainability TU Deft and others for UNEP, especially for developing country perspective, 2005
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.d4s-de.org%2Fmanual%2Fd4stotalmanual.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7a6351c9c6cc4dc2762708d7c1f90c7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637191147700843208&sdata=l%2FBE08QwBKve2xAI%2BtznegChTw58Hb%2FiWwQorKfhfnQ%3D&reserved=0
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> Design for Sustainability: A Practical Approach
> Tracy Bhamra, Vicky Lofthouse, Gower Publishing, Ltd., 2007
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> The Handbook of Design for Sustainability by Stewart Walker et al 2013
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> Stebbing and Tischner, Changing paradigms, designing for a Sustainable Future, cumulus think tank publication, 2015
> download here: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cumulusassociation.org%2Fchanging-paradigms-designing-for-a-sustainable-future%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7a6351c9c6cc4dc2762708d7c1f90c7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637191147700853216&sdata=vOeTTcixD0iPQufXdfG%2F929O0dCbN%2BypmTA9R%2FqrA%2FY%3D&reserved=0
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> I hope that helps…
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>> Am 06.03.2020 um 01:00 schrieb PHD-DESIGN automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]>:
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>> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:34:00 +0000
>> From: Paul Russell <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: PHD-DESIGN Digest - 4 Mar 2020 (#2020-59)
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>> Dear Ursula,
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>> Discussion of Sustainable Design being holistic and covering social and human well-being (as well as environmental) is not "many decades old" to my knowledge. If you can give some sources for that older than 10-12 years ago, other than perhaps Papanek who never used the term, that can support that claim then please share. Sustainability in general has been discussed in those terms for longer, sure. Literature specifically relating to design that is explicit in discussing human wellbeing etc. is more recent than that, obviously.
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>> What I am proposing goes above and beyond any literature on the more holistic Sustainable Design definitions currently available. I haven't fully explained it in my email to be succinct and because I'll be presenting it later.
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>> I find your suggestion to "just Google it" to be rather insulting also. I don't know why you would assume anyone on the list is so ignorant of the literature in our field that they would need to "Google it" to educate themselves.
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>> Regards,
>> Paul Russell
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