@chambers dictionary 20th century.... Very funny Martin
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 15:20 Martin Bland, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Language changes all the time, I agree. The important thing is that every
> body understands the same thing. In this case, I doubt that anybody would
> be misled into thinking that several dice are involved. However, I can
> tell you that my office dictionary, Chambers, defines "dice" as the plural
> of "die". Of course, it is titled "Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary".
>
> Martin
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 15:08, Aisha Olajumoke <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> But Professor, everything is open to change. We all know that "die" is
>> correct but it is suggested now by Oxford and Grammarly that "dice" can
>> equally be plural and singular form of the famous 6-sided and 6-numbered
>> cube.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 15:02 Martin Bland, <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am one native English speaker who would use "die" in everyday speech,
>>> but
>>> I am quite old! Pedantic, perhaps, but "pedantic" is what somebody who
>>> is
>>> wrong calls somebody who is right.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 14:48, Wilson, Paul <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > I have to admit that Allan has touched on one of my hobby-horses. I
>>> > believe that in the modern era "die" as the singular of dice is
>>> obsolete,
>>> > or at best archaic. I know of no native English speaker that would
>>> refer to
>>> > "a die" in everyday speech. If you were to stop someone in the street
>>> and
>>> > ask them what "a die" is, they would either refer to "dye" for
>>> > hair/clothes, or to something for moulding metal.
>>> >
>>> > A quick bit of googling just now brought me to
>>> > grammarly.com/blog/dice-die/ where it states
>>> >
>>> > "If you look up dice in the Oxford Dictionary, you will learn that
>>> dice is
>>> > an acceptable singular and plural form of die. According to this
>>> source,
>>> > dice was once the plural of die, “but in modern standard English dice
>>> is
>>> > both the singular and the plural: ‘throw the dice’ could mean a
>>> reference
>>> > to either one or more than one dice.”
>>> >
>>> > Something I do remember reading in the print version of the Oxford
>>> English
>>> > Dictionary many years back. So my opinion is to applaud the exam
>>> setter who
>>> > had the nerve to jettison an anachronism and say "a dice", like
>>> everyone
>>> > does, but I am sure that others will differ.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Paul
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Paul Wilson
>>> > Senior Lecturer in Statistics
>>> > School of Mathematics and Computer Science
>>> > Faculty of Science and Engineering
>>> > University of Wolverhampton
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>>> > Wolverhampton
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>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> > As John Bibby notes, the 2019 paper is embargoed except for teachers
>>> for
>>> > a year. To continue the SHOCK, HORROR, I looked at an earlier
>>> > Maths/Stats paper in which a question stated someone threw "a dice".
>>> >
>>> > Allan
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