Hi, thanks for the info!
Do all the recent updates contain these same fixes or some do and some
don't?
It seems like B-factors got worse for 877139d9dd as I mentioned below,
and then this particular fix needs to be looked at again?
Also, do you plan to continue working on the general fix to this, as we
really would like to polish this data?
Many thanks,
Leonid
Prof. Leonid Sazanov
IST Austria
Am Campus 1
A-3400 Klosterneuburg
Austria
Phone: +43 2243 9000 3026
E-mail: [log in to unmask]
On 23/10/18 15:18, Takanori Nakane wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you very much for testing.
>
>> What exactly is the problem here, can you describe it briefly, please?
> In the first stage of Bayesian Polishing, trajectories for each particle
> and FCCs
> for each movie are calculated. Next, FCCs are combined and B factors are
> estimated.
>
> NaNs in trajectories and FCCs can lead to crash during B factor
> estimation and/or Refine3D. Recent patches exclude movies containing NaNs.
> We don't know why and when NaNs are generated. One patch (294ce0d) fixes
> one possible cause. These updates solved (well, work-around) at least
> three cases, but seems not sufficient in your case.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Takanori Nakane
>
>> Dear Takanori,
>> Tried the latest fix (877139d9dd)
>> Still get the error after frame 9, and this time b-factors for the first
>> 9 frames seem to make less sense than before, so it got worse in a way.
>> What exactly is the problem here, can you describe it briefly, please?
>> Thanks for your efforts!
>> Here are new B-factors:
>> # RELION; version 3.0-beta-2
>> data_perframe_bfactors
>> loop_
>> _rlnMovieFrameNumber #1
>> _rlnBfactorUsedForSharpening #2
>> _rlnFittedInterceptGuinierPlot #3
>> ?????????? 0???? -1.01236???? 0.003240
>> ?????????? 1??? -11.50108???? 0.001786
>> ?????????? 2??? -16.51618???? -0.02748
>> ?????????? 3??? -22.32118???? -0.01753
>> ?????????? 4??? -28.48895???? -0.00305
>> ?????????? 5??? -31.38510???? -0.02080
>> ?????????? 6??? -34.23007???? -0.01237
>> ?????????? 7??? -40.68527???? 0.020047
>> ?????????? 8??? -45.91777???? 0.041472
>> ?????????? 9??? -49.76217???? 0.125882
>> ????????? 10 -8.80873e+10???????? -inf
>> ????????? 11 -8.80873e+10???????? -inf
>> And here are previous on the same data:
>> # RELION; version 3.0-beta-2
>> data_perframe_bfactors
>> loop_
>> _rlnMovieFrameNumber #1
>> _rlnBfactorUsedForSharpening #2
>> _rlnFittedInterceptGuinierPlot #3
>> ?????????? 0??? -11.23603???? 0.049748
>> ?????????? 1???? -0.08144???? -0.21510
>> ?????????? 2???? -0.08144???? -0.25988
>> ?????????? 3???? -1.65827???? -0.30094
>> ?????????? 4???? -6.20297???? -0.29457
>> ?????????? 5??? -12.73199???? -0.27411
>> ?????????? 6??? -18.13065???? -0.24068
>> ?????????? 7??? -21.96097???? -0.23674
>> ?????????? 8??? -26.33093???? -0.20546
>> ?????????? 9??? -29.74517???? -0.11742
>> ????????? 10 -8.80873e+10???????? -inf
>> ????????? 11 -8.80873e+10???????? -inf
>> Prof. Leonid Sazanov
>> IST Austria
>> Am Campus 1
>> A-3400 Klosterneuburg
>> Austria
>> Phone: +43 2243 9000 3026
>> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> On 19/10/18 20:15, Takanori Nakane wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Jasenko made two more commits (0ad988f, 294ce0d) after I posted
>>> here yesterday. Did you try that? If the problem persists,
>>> we need more time to investigate. This is not an easy bug to fix.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Takanori Nakane
>>> On 2018/10/19 17:37, Leonid Sazanov wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> We tried this fix, but still get the same error at the same frame.
>>>> Please let us know what else can be tried.
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Leonid
>>>> Prof. Leonid Sazanov
>>>> IST Austria
>>>> Am Campus 1
>>>> A-3400 Klosterneuburg
>>>> Austria
>>>> Phone: +43 2243 9000 3026
>>>> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Web: https://ist.ac.at/research/life-sciences/sazanov-group/
>>>> On 17/10/2018 18:55, Takanori Nakane wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> Jasenko made a workaround for this issue.
>>>>> This is the latest commit (d9686b9) on our public repository.
>>>>> Please re-compile the program and 'continue' the job.
>>>>> If the trajectories also contain NaNs, it might still produce
>>>>> broken particles. If you notice it (i.e. Refine3D crashing),
>>>>> please let us know.
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Takanori Nakane
>>>>>> Dear Liz,
>>>>>> No, we did not.
>>>>>> I really hope developers will answer something, since now there are
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least three groups experiencing this problem.
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Leonid
>>>>>> Prof. Leonid Sazanov
>>>>>> IST Austria
>>>>>> Am Campus 1
>>>>>> A-3400 Klosterneuburg
>>>>>> Austria
>>>>>> Phone: +43 2243 9000 3026
>>>>>> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Web: https://ist.ac.at/research/life-sciences/sazanov-group/
>>>>>> On 13/10/2018 22:42, Liz Kellogg wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Leonid,
>>>>>>> I'm experiencing the same issues. Did you ever get the issue
>>>>>>> resolved?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Liz
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 10:42 AM Leonid Sazanov <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> ???? Dear Takanori and Jasenko,
>>>>>>> ???? We still have not resolved this problem (reported by Domen
>>>>>>> below),
>>>>>>> ???? which seems to happen to others as well.
>>>>>>> ???? Does polishing normally work for K2 superresolution images if
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> ???? have binned 2X in motioncor2?
>>>>>>> ???? It seems that if we increase memory available the errors
>>>>>>> change but
>>>>>>> ???? in the end it is always segmentation fault, and always on
>>>>>>> frame 10.
>>>>>>> ???? Now we used 250 GB memory and still have this error.
>>>>>>> ???? Would be great to resolve it.
>>>>>>> ???? Many thanks
>>>>>>> ???? Best wishes,
>>>>>>> ???? Leonid
>>>>>>> ???? Hi,
>>>>>>> ???? Thanks for your suggestion. I have checked the directories
>>>>>>> but my
>>>>>>> ???? FCC files are all of the same size as well (29344 bytes).
>>>>>>> ???? Best,
>>>>>>> ???? Domen
>>>>>>> ???? On 29-Sep-18 0:48, Zhaoming Su wrote:
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Hi Takanori and Jasenko,
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > My FCC files have the same size.
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103863_Data_10103657_10103658_20180910_1942_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103863_Data_10103657_10103658_20180910_1942_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103863_Data_10103667_10103668_20180910_1938_FCC_cc.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103863_Data_10103667_10103668_20180910_1938_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103863_Data_10103667_10103668_20180910_1938_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103571_10103572_20180910_1945_FCC_cc.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103571_10103572_20180910_1945_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103571_10103572_20180910_1945_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103579_10103580_20180910_1946_FCC_cc.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103579_10103580_20180910_1946_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103579_10103580_20180910_1946_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103589_10103590_20180910_1946_FCC_cc.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103589_10103590_20180910_1946_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103589_10103590_20180910_1946_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103603_10103604_20180910_1943_FCC_cc.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103603_10103604_20180910_1943_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103603_10103604_20180910_1943_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103612_10103613_20180910_1943_FCC_cc.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103612_10103613_20180910_1943_FCC_w0.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 suzm bd 13924 Sep 27 17:58
>>>>>>> FoilHole_10103864_Data_10103612_10103613_20180910_1943_FCC_w1.mrc
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Best,
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Zhaoming Su, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Research Scientist, Bioengineering
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Stanford University
>>>>>>> ????? > From: Takanori Nakane <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> ???? <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>>>> ????? > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 3:14:59 PM
>>>>>>> ????? > To: Zhaoming Su; [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> ????? > Cc: Jasenko Zivanov
>>>>>>> ????? > Subject: Re: [ccpem] Bayesian Polishing b-factor fitting
>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Hi Domen and Zhaoming,
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > I forward comments from Jasenko Zivanov (CC-ed),
>>>>>>> ????? > the developer of Bayesian Polishing.
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Please make sure all FCC files under the job directory
>>>>>>> ????? > have the same size.
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Could it be that some of the (thousands of) partial FCC
>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>> ???? (*_FCC_cc.mrc, *_FCC_w0/1.mrc) are damaged?
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Sjors changed the mrc-reader afterwards, so that it would
>>>>>>> ???? refuse to load a corrupted image.
>>>>>>> ????? > > That problem should be gone in the current version.
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > I had observed a corrupted partial FCC file once myself.
>>>>>>> ????? > > This could definitely introduce NaNs into the FCC
>>>>>>> computation.
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > The way to diagnose this would be to check if there are
>>>>>>> ???? unusually small files in the output-directory.
>>>>>>> ????? > > All of them should be the same size.
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Best regards,
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > Takanori Nakane
>>>>>>> ????? >
>>>>>>> ????? > On 2018/09/28 17:34, Zhaoming Su wrote:
>>>>>>> ????? > > Hi All,
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > I have the exact problem on multiple data sets collected
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> ???? packed mrc from EPU, except they all fail at the second
>>>>>>> frame...
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > # RELION; version 3.0-beta-2
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > data_perframe_bfactors
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > loop_
>>>>>>> ????? > > _rlnMovieFrameNumber #1
>>>>>>> ????? > > _rlnBfactorUsedForSharpening #2
>>>>>>> ????? > > _rlnFittedInterceptGuinierPlot #3
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?0? ? ?-0.04828 6.304424e-05
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?1 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?2 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?3 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?4 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?5 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?6 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?7 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?8 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?9 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 10 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 11 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 12 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 13 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 14 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 15 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 16 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 17 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 18 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 19 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 20 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 21 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 22 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 23 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? 24 -5.15980e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Best,
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Zhaoming Su, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Research Scientist, Bioengineering
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Stanford University
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > ________________________________
>>>>>>> ????? > > From: Collaborative Computational Project in Electron
>>>>>>> ???? cryo-Microscopy <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>>>> ???? on behalf of Domen Kampjut <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> ???? <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>>>> ????? > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:45:40 AM
>>>>>>> ????? > > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> ????? > > Subject: [ccpem] Bayesian Polishing b-factor fitting
> error
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Dear All,
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > I keep running into an error when trying to polish
>>>>>>> particles in
>>>>>>> ????? > > relion3.0. Polishing job starts normally and estimated
>>>>>>> per-particle
>>>>>>> ????? > > motion for all micrographs look very reasonable judging
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> ???? the .eps
>>>>>>> ????? > > files in the Micrographs subfolder. Estimating B-factors
>>>>>>> fails
>>>>>>> ???? after
>>>>>>> ????? > > 10th frame though (see the bfactors.star output below)
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>> ????? > > terminates with segmantation fault. I only see this
>>>>>>> error in
>>>>>>> ???? the dataset
>>>>>>> ????? > > collected with a K2 camera as packed .mrc movies using
>>>>>>> EPU.
>>>>>>> ???? Polishing of
>>>>>>> ????? > > Falcon-III movies works fine. Also, if I limit the
>>>>>>> polishing
>>>>>>> ???? job to the
>>>>>>> ????? > > first 9 frames the job completes normally. Please let me
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> ???? if anyone
>>>>>>> ????? > > else observed the same error and what you would need to
>>>>>>> ???? reproduce it.
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Many thanks and best wishes,
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > Domen Kampjut
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > data_perframe_bfactors
>>>>>>> ????? > >
>>>>>>> ????? > > loop_
>>>>>>> ????? > > _rlnMovieFrameNumber #1
>>>>>>> ????? > > _rlnBfactorUsedForSharpening #2
>>>>>>> ????? > > _rlnFittedInterceptGuinierPlot #3
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0? ? -10.90545? ? ?0.048441
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1? ? ?-0.08144? ? ?-0.21434
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2? ? ?-0.08144? ? ?-0.26051
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3? ? ?-3.19811? ? ?-0.29255
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 4? ? ?-5.69430? ? ?-0.29903
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 5? ? -12.85827? ? ?-0.27141
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 6? ? -19.60021? ? ?-0.24128
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 7? ? -22.26604? ? ?-0.23126
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 8? ? -28.06880? ? ?-0.19417
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? 9? ? -30.55454? ? ?-0.11258
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?10 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?11 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?12 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?13 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?14 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?15 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?16 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?17 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?18 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?19 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?20 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?21 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?22 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?23 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?24 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?25 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?26 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?27 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?28 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?29 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?30 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?31 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?32 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?33 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?34 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?35 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?36 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?37 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?38 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?39 -8.80873e+10? ? ? ? ?-inf
>>>>>>> ????? > >
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