Thank you Adrian for informing us of another outrage from the Orban government. I am among the many people who have benefited from Zsuzsa Ferge’s scholarship. My doctoral study partially focussed on women’s pension in Hungary, so am aware of the need for Gender and Women’s Studies in Hungary.
I am happy to add my name to any letter or campaign to try the stop this.
With best wishes
Tony
Tony Maltby Ph.D.
Formerly Birmingham University now ‘retired’.
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> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 09:16:11 +0100
> From: Caroline Glendinning <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: gender studies forbidden in Hungarian universities
>
> Thank you Adrian for circulating this. Could I urge the SPA to respond?
> And also inform BSA and encourage them to write too?
>
> We may not be able to change this but at least we need to make our outrage
> known.
>
> Caroline
>
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> On 10 August 2018 at 15:20, Adrian Sinfield <[log in to unmask]>
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>> I have just received this email from Zsuzsa Ferge whom I have known and
>> admired for nearly 50 years. The first professor of social policy in
>> Hungary, she has made a major contribution to the social sciences, and
>> especially social policy and sociology. Recently there have been increasing
>> attacks on the universities, reducing their powers and that of the
>> Hungarian Academy of Science ( Zsuzsa was made the first social policy
>> member some 15 years ago). This is the latest development.
>>
>> I have a very poor record in getting my own government to change
>> decisions, let alone another one. But it does seem to me important to show
>> that there is wide concern at developments such as this one. I do not know
>> whether many individual letters or group ones will have more impact - both
>> probably.
>>
>> Best wishes, yours, Adrian
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Zsuzsa Ferge <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject: **gender*
>> *Date: *10 August 2018 at 11:35:17 BST
>> *To: *Sinfield Adrian <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Yesterday (full vacation time, nobody at the universities) the government
>> sent a government decree to all universities. There was no previous
>> consultation or discussion. The decree forbids the teaching of GENDER
>> STUDIES. Almost all universities have some such subjects, CEU and ELTE
>> Masters degree studies. The decree allows those already enrolled to finish
>> their degree, but nothing else. Despite the exceptionally hot weather there
>> are already many signs of indignation and outcry, and some started to
>> organise conferences or petitions. Civil associations will send open
>> letters, etc.
>>
>> Do you see any way foreign organisations - including SPA, BSA - could
>> join us? Maybe open letters to our government? And how should it run?
>>
>> Dear Prime Minister , or
>> To Prime Minister of Hungary, Mr. Viktor Orbán!
>>
>> We have been informed by...? that a government decree enacted without
>> previous consultation with the interested parties have been sent out
>> ordering the closure of the teaching of gender studies. (We understand that
>> those already enrolled at MS courses may finish their degree but no new
>> courses are allowed.)
>>
>> Our understanding of the legal and real autonomy of higher education
>> excludes such measures. However, even if it may be legal according to
>> Hungarian legislation, it seems to us a major attack on social science.
>> Gender studies form since ... an integral part of ...etc.
>>
>>
>> (If somebody has official contacts with Hungarian teachers of gender
>> studies, this may be mentioned.,)
>>
>> We ask (?) the Hungarian government to withdraw the decree in order to...
>> ....
>>
>> Please, help with the letter, with possible forms of support, with
>> whatever you think.
>>
>> I have to add that 2-3 years ago they already prohibited the courses of
>> anthropology and andrapedagogy, but then noise was not loud enough. (The
>> original Law of higher education made it the right and duty of Univ Senates
>> to found or close faculties, degrees etc., but this was altered too, in
>> 2015. Hence the current step is "legal".)
>>
>> sad greetings from a self-revelating dictatorship,
>>
>>
>> Zsuzsa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Adrian Sinfield
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> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:00:47 +0000
> From: John Veit-Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: gender studies forbidden in Hungarian universities
>
> Thanks, Caroline. The BSA and European sociological networks have it in hand already. But as it hasn’t reached me via ESPAnet or the European social policy jiscmail, I’ve added them here and would encourage maximum further dissemination to all the networks we are linked with in whatever subjects even at the risk of overlap and duplication.
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> John.
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> From: Social-Policy is run by SPA for all social policy specialists [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Caroline Glendinning
> Sent: 11 August 2018 09:16
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> Subject: Re: gender studies forbidden in Hungarian universities
>
> Thank you Adrian for circulating this. Could I urge the SPA to respond? And also inform BSA and encourage them to write too?
>
> We may not be able to change this but at least we need to make our outrage known.
>
> Caroline
>
>
>
> On 10 August 2018 at 15:20, Adrian Sinfield <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> I have just received this email from Zsuzsa Ferge whom I have known and admired for nearly 50 years. The first professor of social policy in Hungary, she has made a major contribution to the social sciences, and especially social policy and sociology. Recently there have been increasing attacks on the universities, reducing their powers and that of the Hungarian Academy of Science ( Zsuzsa was made the first social policy member some 15 years ago). This is the latest development.
>
> I have a very poor record in getting my own government to change decisions, let alone another one. But it does seem to me important to show that there is wide concern at developments such as this one. I do not know whether many individual letters or group ones will have more impact - both probably.
>
> Best wishes, yours, Adrian
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Zsuzsa Ferge <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Subject: gender
> Date: 10 August 2018 at 11:35:17 BST
> To: Sinfield Adrian <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>
> Yesterday (full vacation time, nobody at the universities) the government sent a government decree to all universities. There was no previous consultation or discussion. The decree forbids the teaching of GENDER STUDIES. Almost all universities have some such subjects, CEU and ELTE Masters degree studies. The decree allows those already enrolled to finish their degree, but nothing else. Despite the exceptionally hot weather there are already many signs of indignation and outcry, and some started to organise conferences or petitions. Civil associations will send open letters, etc.
>
> Do you see any way foreign organisations - including SPA, BSA - could join us? Maybe open letters to our government? And how should it run?
>
> Dear Prime Minister , or
> To Prime Minister of Hungary, Mr. Viktor Orbán!
>
> We have been informed by...? that a government decree enacted without previous consultation with the interested parties have been sent out ordering the closure of the teaching of gender studies. (We understand that those already enrolled at MS courses may finish their degree but no new courses are allowed.)
>
> Our understanding of the legal and real autonomy of higher education excludes such measures. However, even if it may be legal according to Hungarian legislation, it seems to us a major attack on social science. Gender studies form since ... an integral part of ...etc.
>
>
> (If somebody has official contacts with Hungarian teachers of gender studies, this may be mentioned.,)
>
> We ask (?) the Hungarian government to withdraw the decree in order to...
> ....
>
> Please, help with the letter, with possible forms of support, with whatever you think.
>
> I have to add that 2-3 years ago they already prohibited the courses of anthropology and andrapedagogy, but then noise was not loud enough. (The original Law of higher education made it the right and duty of Univ Senates to found or close faculties, degrees etc., but this was altered too, in 2015. Hence the current step is "legal".)
>
> sad greetings from a self-revelating dictatorship,
>
> Zsuzsa
>
>
>
>
> Adrian Sinfield
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> 12 Eden Lane,
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> Scotland, UK
> ++44 (0)131 447 2182
>
>
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