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Re: OCC-HEALTH Digest - 15 Jun 2018 to 16 Jun 2018 (#2018-131)

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Hi All



Hoping that someone can help me with the following request, 



Could anyone direct me to anywhere in the Equality Act 2010 where it suggests that OH review pre-placement health questionnaires,



Kind regards 



Jenny Ware BSc RN SCPHN (OH)

Senior Occupational Health Adviser

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Subject: OCC-HEALTH Digest - 15 Jun 2018 to 16 Jun 2018 (#2018-131)



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  1. Client requesting GP report (2)

  2. Mental Health Awareness collection fi



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Date:    Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:16:31 +0000

From:    Caroline Barnes <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: Client requesting GP report



One caveat. For IHR it is expected/good practice to have up to date medical evidence from the treating doctor/specialist. Cases are frequently overturned without it.



On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, 07:06 Lucy Falconer, <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hi Janet - and thanks to all who took the time to respond to my question.



I have taken a lot out of helpful advice out of this  thread - transparency being a key issue - as well as enquiry specific to health circumstance, rather than saying "we need a report".



I just have one final question, having always been in roles where ill health dismissal cases were managed by an OHP.  If an employer is actually requesting a report because they are considering an ill health dismissal, can we request this without assessing that employee in a formal attendance management review, i.e. stage 3 final hearing?  If it was to later transpire that the report was being commissioned for this reason, and the employee did not know this, then they have not really given valid consent for this.  Please correct me if I am wrong though.



Thank you.



Lucy



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Date:    Sat, 16 Jun 2018 16:48:21 +0100

From:    janet oneill <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: Mental Health Awareness collection fi



thank you Nick - very useful



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Date:    Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:50:36 +0100

From:    janet oneill <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: Client requesting GP report



Hi Lucy

I would say that we should never request a further medical evidence report without assessing the individual, regardless of whether they are having a final hearing or not. I don't believe we would be part of the formal attendance management review/stage 3 final hearing?

We wouldn't know what specific questions to ask or what type of FME  to get if we hadn't recently assessed the person.



Usually we will be advising whether that individual is able to return to work in the reasonably foreseeable future and whether any adjustments or redeployment is feasible to assist the return to work



hopefully I have understood your question correctly





On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Caroline Barnes <[log in to unmask]>

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> One caveat. For IHR it is expected/good practice to have up to date 

> medical evidence from the treating doctor/specialist. Cases are 

> frequently overturned without it.

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> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, 07:06 Lucy Falconer, <00000e4821e992ae-dmarc- 

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>> Hi Janet - and thanks to all who took the time to respond to my question.

>>

>> I have taken a lot out of helpful advice out of this  thread - 

>> transparency being a key issue - as well as enquiry specific to 

>> health circumstance, rather than saying "we need a report".

>>

>> I just have one final question, having always been in roles where ill 

>> health dismissal cases were managed by an OHP.  If an employer is 

>> actually requesting a report because they are considering an ill 

>> health dismissal, can we request this without assessing that employee 

>> in a formal attendance management review, i.e. stage 3 final hearing?  

>> If it was to later transpire that the report was being commissioned 

>> for this reason, and the employee did not know this, then they have 

>> not really given valid consent for this.  Please correct me if I am wrong though.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Lucy

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