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Re: Drawing in Fine Art Departments

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Stuart Murphy <[log in to unmask]>

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I'd say most artists draw as part of their practice, it just isn't always part of the end product, or in this case part of their degree show work.
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On Tue, 5/6/18, emma bolland <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Drawing in Fine Art Departments
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Tuesday, 5 June, 2018, 15:22
 
 I see a great deal
 of good drawing based practice emerging from
 contemporary/fine art courses. Alongside equally valid work
 in the media you mention. I would dispute your view, and
 also remark that drawing does not begin and end with the
 life drawing.
 
 Emma
 Bolland
 +44 7905695423
 https://emmabolland.com/
 @emmaZbolland
 On Tue, 5
 Jun 2018, 15:17 Stephen Farthing, <[log in to unmask]>
 wrote:
 
 Dear William You ask a good question - which I suspect
 it would take at least a chapter in a book to properly
 answer . That said , I suspect the short answer is first in
 the 19th century with the invention of photography then by
 the end of the twentieth century with first what we know as
 abstract art then digital imaging,
 All the
 best Stephen
 
 Sent from
 Yahoo Mail for iPhone
 
 On
 Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 5:01 PM, Simon Downs <[log in to unmask]>
 wrote:
 
 Dear William
 
 You could look at the Coldstream Report (1968) which marked
 a formal educational move away from Fine Arts based on
 material skill:
 
 
 
 'Fine Art
 
 
 
 Whilst painting and sculpture or a combination of the two
 will, we expect, continue to be the main preoccupation of
 students in this area, we do not believe that studies in
 fine art can be adequately defined in terms of chief studies
 related to media. We believe
  that studies in fine art derive from an attitude which may
 be expressed in many ways. Their precise nature will depend
 upon the circumstances of individual colleges.’
 
 
 Sir William Coldstream, 1968 (http://dera.ioe.ac.uk/13935/1/Structure_of_art_and_design_education.pdf)
 
 You could look to the move from mediation that was
 already underway when the Dadaists worked to undermine the
 artefact. But I’m not an art historian, so I shouldn’t
 comment.
 Speaking for myself, I trained as a painter illustrator
 and teach graphic communication at a course where we still
 academically train draftspeople, from life drawing to
 visualisations, analogue and digital. We are doing the sort
 of work that Coldstream
  wrote about in ’68:
 
 'Graphic Design
 To a very great extent this area which has no chief
 studies already has the freedom to develop the variety of
 emphasis and the flexibility of approach which we seek to
 encourage. It should be noted that many developments in this
 area have gone hand in
  hand with a rapidly increasing interest in communication
 media.’
 
 
 (Ibid)
 
 Best wishes.
 
 
 
 Simon
 
 
 
 Simon
 Downs
 
 Lecturer in Graphic Communication
 
 School of Arts, English and Drama
 
 Loughborough University
 Lead Editor of The PosterEditor of
 TraceyDirector of the Drawing Research
 NetworkRep’ for the University and Colleges
 Union   
 
 
 
 
 
 On
 5 June 2018 at 14:39:37, William Mulraney ([log in to unmask])
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 
 
 
 Serious Questions.
 
 
 
 When did drawing become so devalued in Art Schools,
 especially in Fine Art Departments.
 
 
 
 Anecdotal evidence - an artist friend of mine was talking to
 a Director of Fine Art at a leading Art School in the UK who
 proclaimed, " well, of course we have computers now -
 so there is no need for the students to learn how to
 draw."
 
 
 
 Another Art School tutor I know of got into trouble for
 organising a life model and a life room session until he
 declared that he was asked to do so by a group of students
 who wanted to learn some of the rudiments of life
 drawing.
 
 
 
 How did we get to this situation?
 
 
 
 Does anyone have links to reading around this change in Fine
 Art Dept. culture or can anyone illuminate me from examples
 of personal experience?
 
 
 
 I don't want to be a hoary old reactionary but I'm
 getting bored sick of attending degree shows and seeing 90
 percent of the students making boring videos and displaying
 banal photographs.
 
 
 
 
 
 Many thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 William
 
 
 
 
 
 
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