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Re: Drawing in Fine Art Departments

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Katrinka Wilson <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi, 

I wrote a chapter on this subject if you’re interested, although in my experience drawing has passed through any ‘taboo’ phase and is widely available in art schools.



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> On 5 Jun 2018, at 15:46, Stuart Murphy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 

> I'd say most artists draw as part of their practice, it just isn't always part of the end product, or in this case part of their degree show work.

> --------------------------------------------

> On Tue, 5/6/18, emma bolland <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 

> Subject: Re: Drawing in Fine Art Departments

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Date: Tuesday, 5 June, 2018, 15:22

> 

> I see a great deal

> of good drawing based practice emerging from

> contemporary/fine art courses. Alongside equally valid work

> in the media you mention. I would dispute your view, and

> also remark that drawing does not begin and end with the

> life drawing.

> 

> Emma

> Bolland

> +44 7905695423

> https://emmabolland.com/

> @emmaZbolland

> On Tue, 5

> Jun 2018, 15:17 Stephen Farthing, <[log in to unmask]>

> wrote:

> 

> Dear William You ask a good question - which I suspect

> it would take at least a chapter in a book to properly

> answer . That said , I suspect the short answer is first in

> the 19th century with the invention of photography then by

> the end of the twentieth century with first what we know as

> abstract art then digital imaging,

> All the

> best Stephen

> 

> Sent from

> Yahoo Mail for iPhone

> 

> On

> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 5:01 PM, Simon Downs <[log in to unmask]>

> wrote:

> 

> Dear William

> 

> You could look at the Coldstream Report (1968) which marked

> a formal educational move away from Fine Arts based on

> material skill:

> 

> 

> 

> 'Fine Art

> 

> 

> 

> Whilst painting and sculpture or a combination of the two

> will, we expect, continue to be the main preoccupation of

> students in this area, we do not believe that studies in

> fine art can be adequately defined in terms of chief studies

> related to media. We believe

>  that studies in fine art derive from an attitude which may

> be expressed in many ways. Their precise nature will depend

> upon the circumstances of individual colleges.’

> 

> 

> Sir William Coldstream, 1968 (http://dera.ioe.ac.uk/13935/1/Structure_of_art_and_design_education.pdf)

> 

> You could look to the move from mediation that was

> already underway when the Dadaists worked to undermine the

> artefact. But I’m not an art historian, so I shouldn’t

> comment.

> Speaking for myself, I trained as a painter illustrator

> and teach graphic communication at a course where we still

> academically train draftspeople, from life drawing to

> visualisations, analogue and digital. We are doing the sort

> of work that Coldstream

>  wrote about in ’68:

> 

> 'Graphic Design

> To a very great extent this area which has no chief

> studies already has the freedom to develop the variety of

> emphasis and the flexibility of approach which we seek to

> encourage. It should be noted that many developments in this

> area have gone hand in

>  hand with a rapidly increasing interest in communication

> media.’

> 

> 

> (Ibid)

> 

> Best wishes.

> 

> 

> 

> Simon

> 

> 

> 

> Simon

> Downs

> 

> Lecturer in Graphic Communication

> 

> School of Arts, English and Drama

> 

> Loughborough University

> Lead Editor of The PosterEditor of

> TraceyDirector of the Drawing Research

> NetworkRep’ for the University and Colleges

> Union   

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On

> 5 June 2018 at 14:39:37, William Mulraney ([log in to unmask])

> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Hi

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Serious Questions.

> 

> 

> 

> When did drawing become so devalued in Art Schools,

> especially in Fine Art Departments.

> 

> 

> 

> Anecdotal evidence - an artist friend of mine was talking to

> a Director of Fine Art at a leading Art School in the UK who

> proclaimed, " well, of course we have computers now -

> so there is no need for the students to learn how to

> draw."

> 

> 

> 

> Another Art School tutor I know of got into trouble for

> organising a life model and a life room session until he

> declared that he was asked to do so by a group of students

> who wanted to learn some of the rudiments of life

> drawing.

> 

> 

> 

> How did we get to this situation?

> 

> 

> 

> Does anyone have links to reading around this change in Fine

> Art Dept. culture or can anyone illuminate me from examples

> of personal experience?

> 

> 

> 

> I don't want to be a hoary old reactionary but I'm

> getting bored sick of attending degree shows and seeing 90

> percent of the students making boring videos and displaying

> banal photographs.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Many thanks

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> William

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