Just a brief remark, David. I have raised this issue several times on the
list, and not just with you. Clearly to no avail. So it really should be
considered an impersonal point. I'm not getting at you in particular or
anyone else. You should be able to understand this, as you've criticised
other posters for being 'subjective'.
There is obviously no crime in 'simply' not liking Muldoon's poetry or
McNeish's or Prynne's poetry for that matter. But dismissing any of them as
'crap' gets a discussion nowhere. If, as Luke suggested, you were to say 'I
don't like Muldoon's poetry because...' there might be something for others
to engage with. This is a discussion group about poetry, not just an
opportunity to slag off poets whose work we don't happen to like.
A list owner came on about a year ago to remind us that the list "was
created in order to promote the healthy, rigorous and POSITIVE discussion
of British contemporary poetry". Well, a discussion of poetry isn't
necessarily healthy, nor is it obliged to be 'positive', nor does it have to
be promotional but it surely shouldn't just be a dognmatic statement of
personal taste or distaste.
Jamie
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From: David Lace
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Post modernity
Sorry if I'm taking the spotlight away from you, Luke. I know how irritating
that can be to certain egos.
I simply don't like Muldoon's poetry (as I'm sure you don't like certain
poetry -- not a crime, I hope!).
Sorry if "crap" is a rude word — though, I’ve heard “fuck” being used here a
few times over the years. I expect it all depends on who says it, though.
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Luke wrote:
You can be dismissive if you like, but one would at least like to know
reasons for calling him "crap", and perhaps that'd help create discussion of
something other than you etc., as it seems for now.
All the best,
Luke
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