Hi Chris,
Thank you for the explanation. No plume can enter the environment because of the contact applicator.
Best wishes,
Tom
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From: British Medical Laser Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Edwards (Aneurin Bevan UHB - Dermatology)
Sent: 30 January 2018 11:26
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Subject: Re: hair removal - plume extraction
We use IPL with a contact applicator with built-in epidermal cooling of about 20mmX20mm (not sure of the exact dimensions). I've just spoken to one of our operators who said very occasionally they can smell burning, but not often and not much. I suspect the smell does not travel to the door and the rest of the clinic. There is no plume extraction.
Chris Edwards
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From: British Medical Laser Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Lister
Sent: 30 January 2018 10:38
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Subject: Re: hair removal - plume extraction
Hi Chris,
This is very interesting. Of course, the laser will burn the 2-5 mm of hair that you advise to keep and this will produce a plume of noxious smoke (albeit not as much as during ablative CO2). Do you also use an aqueous gel during treatment, or is the laser aperture in contact with the skin at the time of treatment? I just wonder what we are doing differently in Salisbury that leads to a smell of burning hair.
Best wishes,
Tom
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From: British Medical Laser Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Edwards (Aneurin Bevan UHB - Dermatology)
Sent: 30 January 2018 08:53
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Subject: Re: hair removal - plume extraction
Hi Tom
Hair removal / reduction should not be an ablative procedure. If it is, you are doing it wrong and should expect many problems! The laser targets the melanin in the hair root, below the skin surface.
Thus there should be no laser plume to worry about.
Long hairs should be shaved to 2-5mm length before the procedure.
We do laser hair removal in my clinic, and I have never smelt any burning hair.
Good luck!
Chris Edwards
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From: British Medical Laser Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Lister
Sent: 29 January 2018 15:33
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Subject: hair removal - plume extraction
Dear list,
I am involved in setting up a new facility that will include laser hair removal treatments performed in a medium/small sized clinic room. The treatments will be performed by a lone practitioner and the door to the clinic room opens onto the waiting room. Clearly the optical hazard has to be managed appropriately, but there is also the hazard/smell associated with laser plume.
Following the recent interest in laser plumes, including some excellent work in Loughborough, I am wondering what the current advice is regarding use of plume extraction during hair removal? Using the laser and plume extraction together is possible, but difficult for a single practitioner. Requiring patients to shave the area before treatment can also reduce plume, but is that adequate?
Any thoughts/experience/evidence regarding management or risk would be very welcome.
Kind regards,
Tom
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