Dear Jade,
I am sending you a publication about the only ones Gossypium
archaeological seeds recovered in Argentina. They were compared
against G. barbadense. You may see that medium sizes of the charred
seeds are more or less 3/4mm widht by 6/7 mm lenght. The attach is
badly scanned but in the case you were interested I can make a new
better pdf file.
I hope it helps,
Regards
Aylen Capparelli
Charlene Bouchaud <[log in to unmask]> escribió:
> Dear Jade,
> You mean 5.3 mm/4.01 mm isn't it? It's quite small indeed but you have a
> charred seed, and some fresh cotton seeds are a little bit bigger than this
> size. If it is cotton, you should see a raphe/line running from the beak to
> the chalaza. Cells of the cotton seed coat present a palissadic structure,
> maybe you can observe them on breaking parts of the seed coat.
> Best regards,
> Charlène Bouchaud
>
> 2018-01-19 0:50 GMT+01:00 Jade d'Alpoim Guedes <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I?m hoping someone might be able to help me resolve an ID for this seed
>> found in a site in Central Thailand. It is 5.3 cm long and 4.01 cm wide,
>> slightly flattened and comes to a small point or beak on the end which is
>> visible on the photo. It seems like this is the seed coat which is in parts
>> flaking off. I know that it is helpful to see the vascular tissues that
>> irrigate the ovule to confirm an ID of cotton, however, I don?t want to
>> break this specimen as it is the only one in the site. It seems a little
>> smaller than other cotton reported. I?ve seen publications that mention
>> that seeds should be 7-11 mm.
>>
>>
>>
>> This would not be a commonly reported taxon for the area so I?m hesitant
>> to make the ID, but am having trouble thinking of other possibilities and
>> welcome any thoughts you might have.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jade d?Alpoim Guedes
>>
>> Assistant Professor
>>
>> Department of Anthropology
>>
>> Scripps Institution of Oceanography
>>
>> University of California San Diego
>>
>>
>>
>> Mailing Address at Scripps:
>>
>> Scripps Institution of Oceanography-Sverdrup Hall
>>
>> 8615 Kennel Way Rm # 1255
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=8615+Kennel+Way+Rm+%23+1255+La+Jolla,+CA+92037&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> La Jolla, CA 92037
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=8615+Kennel+Way+Rm+%23+1255+La+Jolla,+CA+92037&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> -0212
>>
>>
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.jadeguedes.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jadeguedes.com&d=DwMF-g&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-Je7sw&r=7eqiFYosEOviyknG5FkethEzEAaL3jDPr8ADVeyhZew&m=FfC6YyvodEvSwEI9ouYMMMGq048Irph-tR9PXq-0Xo0&s=YbJ5L3aA3ur1qdGWAnjgEpMDowKiWyCVcisqVyy8JwI&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://anthro.ucsd.edu/people/faculty/faculty-profiles/jade-guedes.html
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__anthro.ucsd.edu_people_faculty_faculty-2Dprofiles_jade-2Dguedes.html&d=DwMF-g&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-Je7sw&r=7eqiFYosEOviyknG5FkethEzEAaL3jDPr8ADVeyhZew&m=FfC6YyvodEvSwEI9ouYMMMGq048Irph-tR9PXq-0Xo0&s=rb8hSSoBMEgVB0hrm9c4NvNvkh1Tg60F4Q01LXlyCek&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://scripps.ucsd.edu/profiles/jguedes
>>
>>
>>
>> Find recent papers at Research Gate:
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jade_Dalpoim_Guedes
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.researchgate.net_profile_Jade-5FDalpoim-5FGuedes&d=DwMF-g&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-Je7sw&r=7eqiFYosEOviyknG5FkethEzEAaL3jDPr8ADVeyhZew&m=FfC6YyvodEvSwEI9ouYMMMGq048Irph-tR9PXq-0Xo0&s=Fcvc3Tsmn-woiDSNy7EkT8eoKPSC2tKM6ruCqNE2NYQ&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *The archaeobotany mailing list <[log in to unmask]> on
>> behalf of Julian Wiethold <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Reply-To: *The archaeobotany mailing list <[log in to unmask]>,
>> Julian Wiethold <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Date: *Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 8:56 AM
>> *To: *<[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject: *Aw: request for ID help for a big weird something
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like a coprolith...
>>
>>
>> Julian Wiethold
>> Chargé opération et recherche
>> Institut national de recherches archéologiques préventives (Inrap)
>> Direction interrégionale Grand-Est Nord
>> Laboratoire archéobotanique
>> 12, rue de Méric
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=12,+rue+de+M%C3%A9ric&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> CS 80005
>> F-57063 Metz cedex 2
>> France
>>
>> Tel ++33/(0)3.87.16.22.51
>> Mobile 06.08.71.14.70
>> [log in to unmask]
>> ****************************************************************
>> Publications:
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Julian_Wiethold/
>> http://inrap.academia.edu/JulianWiethold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2018 um 16:43 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Wiebke Kirleis" <[log in to unmask]>
>> *An:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Betreff:* request for ID help for a big weird something
>>
>> Dear all,
>> When re-visiting archived material from a Neolithic site in a wetland area
>> in northern Germany, we came across the weird big "something" that you can
>> see from the inner and outer side in the attached jpg. The inner wall shows
>> a pattern with some stripes. Has anyone seen something similiar yet? I am
>> not sure if it is a botanical remain at all - maybe zoological? Scales are
>> milimeters from a simple ruler, thus it measures about 1.5 x 2.5 cm.
>> Looking forward to get some comments,
>> best,
>> Wiebke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Dr. Wiebke Kirleis
>> Umweltarchäologie/Archäobotanik
>>
>> Institut für Ur- und Frühgeschichte
>> Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel
>> Johanna-Mestorf-Strasse 2
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Johanna-Mestorf-Strasse+2&entry=gmail&source=g>-6
>> | D-24118 Kiel | Germany
>>
>> Telefon: 0049 (0)431/880-3173
>> Fax: 0049 (0)431/880-7300
>>
>> www.ufg.uni-kiel.de/
>>
>> --
>> Graduate School "Human Development in Landscapes"
>> www.gshdl.uni-kiel.de/
>>
>> --
>> "Advances in Archaeobotany"
>> www.archaeobotany.eu/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Charlène Bouchaud
> Chargée de recherches CNRS
> UMR 7209 - archéozoologie, archéobotanique. Sociétés, pratiques,
> environnements CNRS/MNHN
> 55, rue Buffon (CP 56) F-75005 Paris, France
> Tél. bureau : +33(0)140793474
> [log in to unmask]
> http://sciencesenmarche.org/fr/
>
----------------------------------------------------------------
This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
|