Fieled’s point is not really about prizes per se but about “canon formation”, and what’s considered poetically important in any given society/culture in history. He’s saying that many poets who were thought to be important by their contemporaries are now seen as being insignificant. That seems historically obvious to me and shouldn't be annoying so many of you.
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Well Christopher Smart won the Seatonian Prize in 1750 for 'On the Immensity of the Supreme Being' :)
David
On 16 December 2017 at 15:23, Jamie McKendrick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Good point! (So not for Cocknies.) Still it seems a weirdly ahistorical statement? An Arts Council grant has been posthumously awarded to John Clare, and the T.S. Eliot Prize (in absentia) to John Walker, the Liverpool shoe-maker poet - about whom I've just been reading in an article by A.D. Harvey.
J
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On 16 Dec 2017, at 14:43, GILES GOODLAND <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Newdigate Prize--from 1806--but for Oxford students only
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Subject: Re: “More Notes On The Solid World”. Another interesting blog post by Adam Fieled
To the best of my very limited knowledge there were no 'prizes, grants and fellowships' given to any poets at all between 1821-55 ( excluding the laureateship - more of a poisoned chalice of malmsey), so I wonder what on earth AF is basing his estimate on.
J
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> On 16 Dec 2017, at 13:18, David Lace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> From “More Notes On The Solid World”. Another interesting blog post by Adam Fieled.
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> “John Keats left the planet Earth in 1821. His work gradually began to gain some prominence in the 1850s, 30-35 years after his death. Let’s not forget how the Regular World works, folks—I would estimate that each year, between 1821 and 1855, there were thirty major prizes, grants, and fellowships given to poets in the UK, from Oxford, Cambridge, and elsewhere. Over 35 years, that’s roughly one thousand awards. John Keats, during his brief lifetime, never won any prizes, awards, or fellowships. John Keats was a Solid World poet all the way, and.......”
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> http://fieledsmiscellaneous.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/more-notes-on-solid-world.html
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