This is a really interesting thread, we have been trying to identify just ebooks from the all items report with limited success.
It seems that you need a manual intervention when bookmarking, i.e., by adding a note of some sort to identify ebooks ?
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From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Naughten
Sent: 24 November 2017 13:58
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Subject: Re: bookmarking behaviour and reading list composition stats
Hi Emma,
Thanks for replying.
Yes, we do something similar in the student note because when we started with Aspire in 2013 we weren't sure that students would be able to distinguish between print and eBook bookmarks - so in the latter we add ELECTRONIC BOOK to the student note. But we're currently considering how to include info about the different eBook platforms because obviously they can be very different in terms of number of users permitted, whether they allow downloads or read online only, etc.
I think the student note field is a useful way to filter (we do something similar to identify digitisations in the All List Items report as well), especially if the format isn't present in the record in a way that is visible in the bookmark.
Thanks again,
Rebecca
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From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hollinshead, Emma
Sent: 24 November 2017 13:50
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Subject: Re: bookmarking behaviour and reading list composition stats
Hi Rebecca,
We went live with Talis in September. Our LMS and discovery service both have separate records for the print and e-copies of the titles and we by default will add both formats to a reading list. When bookmarking from our discovery system we put a note in the student note field to identify that it is an ebook from a particular supplier, e.g. MyiLibrary, Ebrary, Ebook Central etc. This note remains when the book mark is added to the list and means that when we export all the items using the all items on list report we can filter by format to get all books and then again to identify the ebooks.
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Emma
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From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Naughten
Sent: 24 November 2017 13:38
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Subject: Re: bookmarking behaviour and reading list composition stats
Hi David,
Thanks for replying.
The web address column in the All List Items report was something we've considered but unfortunately our print records contain URLs for things like table of contents or other publisher info, so we can't use that as a filter - it still picks up titles that we only hold in print.
It's interesting to find out the various methods other places use to address the same issue - I don't know that any two institutions will do exactly the same thing!
Best wishes,
Rebecca
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From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Renfree
Sent: 24 November 2017 13:29
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Subject: Re: bookmarking behaviour and reading list composition stats
Hi Rebecca
We do it a slightly different way. We have just one MARC record for each book title - if an EBook is also available, we place the URL in the 856u field. So, we run the All List Items report and restrict it to show just books. Then all we need to do is filter the Web Address column - all titles which are print only will be blank, the rest will have a URL. By checking this regularly, we've been able to watch the proportion of EBook links slowly growing over the last 3-4 years.
Regards
David
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From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Naughten
Sent: 24 November 2017 13:00
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Subject: Re: bookmarking behaviour and reading list composition stats
Hello again,
In response to my query, I’ve had a question about my saying that "Using the All List Items report, we produce a breakdown of resource types (including the split between print and electronic books) on published reading lists for the current academic year." Someone wanted to know how I got the split between print and electronic books from the All List Items report.
In the eBook records, we put $$h [electronic resource] in the 245 field in between the title and the subtitle – when you bookmark the eBook, this causes ‘electronic resource’ to show up in the Format field of the bookmark (the resource Type is still ‘Book’). As far as we’re aware, there’s no way of manually adding Format as a field to a bookmark (it’s not in the list of options when you add additional fields).
On a list, this means that an eBook bookmark includes ‘(electronic resource)’ after the author and year of publication in the list view of a bookmark (I can’t attach screenshots, but if anyone wants to see an example I’m happy to send them some screenshots by email) – and it also means that it shows up as filterable information in the All List Items report (because ‘electronic resource’ appears in the Format column).
I’m not a cataloguer, but I’ve been told that we have that information in the 245 because that’s where it goes in the standard we use. However, when we switched to Alma and Primo we found that [electronic resource] was displaying between the title and subtitle in Primo (this didn’t happen with Capita although the information was likewise in the 245 field) – our Resource Discovery and Access team had to create a rule for Primo so that it just displays the title and subtitle. Other places may do it a different way, or maybe some are unaware that it is possible to get a Format field to appear in a bookmark? I think it will come down to what cataloguing standards you use in combination with your LMS/catalogue. I don’t know whether having the info in a different field to the 245 would allow it to be picked up by the bookmarking widget? But that’s how I’m able to get the split between print and electronic books in our monthly stats.
The person who asked me the question suggested that my answer would be of interest to other people – I’ve obviously replied to my original query in order to share it, but wasn’t sure whether it would be better in a separate post?
Rebecca
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