fyi
https://twitter.com/OpenAIRE_eu/status/921324628731138048
"Hi @twig2noise - tweaked the text a little so that monograph publishers
will not be excluded"
Best
Sebastian
On 10/20/2017 12:11 PM, Martin Eve wrote:
> Just to say this is also in line with my view.
>
> In the last round of this call, they proposed funding for APC-free
> models to improve their technical infrastructure. This implied that
> APC-free models had inferior infrastructure and provided a restricted
> use of funds while funding APCs at the maximum level. It also completely
> neglected the fact that it's not technology that costs - it's labour +
> people!
>
> This call does a similar thing, although it is broader. It basically says:
>
> APC-free models can apply for funding. This funding, though, is not to
> be used to run your organisation ("not an APC substitute"). It is to get
> yourself on a sustainable track.
>
> This is, in my view, again a total misjudgement and treats these models
> as second-class.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 20/10/17 11:03, Ulrich Herb wrote:
>> I totally agree with Sebastian. The call is sewn with a hot needle -
>> as the Germans say. They have found money somewhere and now they want
>> to spend it on something new - which I am very much in favour of
>> because in this case it means non-APC-based. However, it might be very
>> difficult to construct something suitable in a hurry. Nevertheless,
>> perhaps in this round people are currently working on projects that
>> fit the geometry of the call.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Ulrich
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Am 20. Okt 2017 um 11:54 schrieb Sebastian Nordhoff
>> [log in to unmask]:
>>
>> On 10/20/2017 11:03 AM, Martin Eve wrote:
>>> I can't see anything that would exclude you here... The challenge is
>>> that "all eligible initiatives will have to prove that a number of
>>> FP7/H2020 publications will be published by it"...
>>>
>>> How does one prove that a number of publications _will be_ published in
>>> the future? I assume that they want a track record of FP7/Horizon
>>> pubs...
>>
>> and it looks very much that it is still centered on journals/articles.
>> In the beginning, they stress that they include books, but later on, in
>> the criteria for evaluation, it is all about articles.
>>
>> I must say I do not fully understand this call. You get a maximum of
>> 50k, which you have to spend in the first half of 2018, it must be some
>> kind of innovative model, and it must include output from existing
>> FP7/H2020 projects. I cannot make those elements fit. Setting up a new
>> revenue model will take longer than 6 months, and you cannot draft it in
>> 4 weeks.
>>
>> It seems to me that OpenAire found some funds they have to spend before
>> June, and they decided to spend it in this fashion.
>>
>> Best
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 19/10/17 17:19, Eileen Joy wrote:
>>>> Question:
>>>>
>>>> can non-European publishers apply (or, in punctum's case: a publisher
>>>> with editorial offices in California and the Netherlands)?
>>>>
>>>> Is this applicable to book publishers, as well as journals publishers?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Eileen
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Ulrich Herb
>>>> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear list,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fyi....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.openaire.eu/second-call-for-proposals-for-alternative-funding-mechanism-for-non-author-fee-based-open-access-publishing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.openaire.eu/second-call-for-proposals-for-alternative-funding-mechanism-for-non-author-fee-based-open-access-publishing>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ulrich Herb
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> combustion
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>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
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