Yes, Doug, I take your points. There is a difference with a deliberate form
like cento and lifting holus bolus and claiming as your own. From creative
tweaking to unacknowledged appropriation. I published a cento once however,
and was advised not to credit the poets I had 'quoted' for the reason you
mention: let people work it out for themselves. I think you would know if
you were doing a 'dodgy'. If in doubt, I suggest posting the poem and the
original on poetryetc. Then see what sort of versestorm arises.
Bill
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 12:55 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Wow, there’s a lot of stuff down there, Bill, that I’m going to delete...
>
> The story was on FB, & then made it into the Canadian media, so it’s
> pretty solid. Not even those closet the poet can say they have any idea why
> he did it. Lightman says his other work is fine & worthy. The whole
> question of how to make ’appropriation’ work is a knotty one. I for example
> ‘borrowed’ first lines from 3 poets I very much admire in one sequence, &
> use other lines as first orgs online in what are word’/line acrostics. But
> I also (usually: my editor of the latest book thought it neat to let people
> figure these things out for themselves). These are ways of getting into a
> mode of address I guess, language playing off language (I typed that badly
> & had to correct, but ‘paying off language’ would also work.
>
> Anyway, in this I guess I am a Lightman man, as the poet seems to have
> really stolen into French other whole poems, if with some slight changes; &
> the other examples he gives are outrageous.
>
> Doug
> > On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Doug, are you a Lightman man, the plagiarist outing trouser puller
> downer?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
>
> Douglas Barbour
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> https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>
> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations
> 2 (UofAPress).
> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
> Listen. If (UofAPress):
>
>
> There was the usual amount of corruption, intimidation, and rioting.
>
> Sir Charles Petrie
>
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