Thanks for the very detailed and buoyant feedback, Doug. We are living in
interesting times :)
Sheila
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Ah, both versions swing, Sheila. But I think, Bill, that you are looking
> for ‘a’ meaning that her poems tend to slide around, & into multiple (or,
> indeed, multiplex) possibilities, instead. A bunch, gathered.
>
> So, I enjoyed that sharp opening in the first version, the slap in the
> face of it.
>
> Also enjoyed the lines, words, picked out by others, but also the sly (&
> implied slimy) 'disruptive screech.’
>
> So, really enjoyed it, Sheila, the impetus (very likely that personal
> political we all suffer from) implied & then refracted through….
>
> Doug
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:58 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Sheila. I favour this second version's opening stanza. Still have
> > trouble with 'Anymore' beginning stanza two. Am I getting closer to
> imagine
> > allusion to fresh T-man coinages? Covfefe?
> >
> > https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40104063
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 at 6:25 pm, Patrick McManus <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Bill I missed the Trumping !!!! read it as an escape poem !! this
> >> old head -but then perhaps no two readers get exactly the same
> >> understanding???
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/06/2017 08:52, Sheila Murphy wrote:
> >>> Bill, it may not be you at all! I come to wonder whether line 1 is not
> >> the
> >>> biggest stumbling block. This may make no diff, but you did give me a
> >>> thought. Yes, there are references to the T. Thanks. Sheila
> >>>
> >>> Comedia
> >>>
> >>> Faced with present
> >>> prestidigitation,
> >>> why not
> >>> major in history?
> >>>
> >>> Anymore, the past
> >>> reverberates with
> >>> just-so justice,
> >>> versus an unframed
> >>>
> >>> portrait of today,
> >>> signed by the self-
> >>> appointed mascot
> >>> of disruptive screech
> >>>
> >>> that implicates
> >>> its hearers
> >>> for receiving
> >>> and rescinding.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Bill Wootton <
> [log in to unmask]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sleight of hand? I recall the word prestidigitation, sounding like
> >>>> something a century old magician might get up to. But sorry, Sheila, I
> >> can
> >>>> make no more sense of this poem than I could of last week's. I'm sure
> >> it's
> >>>> me but I just can't lock in any sort of interpretation. It's 'about'
> >> Trump,
> >>>> maybe? (Most things seem to be these days.) These words, in this
> order,
> >> are
> >>>> inpenetrable to me and I've tried - I've read and re-read a number of
> >>>> times. Is there some 'key' of which I am unaware?
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 at 5:18 pm, Patrick McManus <
> >>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am getting ancient had to double check
> >>>>>
> >>>>> prestidigitation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and good job I did!! one of those BIG words one wishes to work in
> >>>>> thanks Sheila ah the safety of studying history (unless one is some
> >> sort
> >>>>> of denier!!
> >>>>> cheers P 9off on short holiday -I hate holidays but well duty calls
> !!
> >>>>> On 01/06/2017 03:41, Sheila Murphy wrote:
> >>>>>> Lockstep splinters
> >>>>>> faced with
> >>>>>> prestidigitation.
> >>>>>> Why not
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> major in history?
> >>>>>> Anymore, the past
> >>>>>> reverberates with
> >>>>>> just-so justice,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> versus an unframed
> >>>>>> portrait of today,
> >>>>>> signed by the self-
> >>>>>> appointed mascot
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> of disruptive screech
> >>>>>> that implicates
> >>>>>> its hearers for
> >>>>>> receiving and rescinding.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sheila E. Murphy
> >>
>
> Douglas Barbour
> [log in to unmask]
> https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>
> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations
> 2 (UofAPress).
> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
> Listen. If (UofAPress):
>
> I go down to the Twilight Arcade
> and watch the Martian invaders,
> already appalled by our language,
> pointing at what they want.
>
> Bill Manhire
>
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