Thanks, Bill and Doug. I appreciate these perspectives very much.
On Jun 2, 2017 12:49 AM, "Bill Wootton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Take your point, Doug. I do try to let poems wash over me as well as
listening for meaning. But some things just escape me on any level,
lockstep splinters, being one such.
Bill
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 at 4:39 am, Sheila Murphy <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Thanks for the very detailed and buoyant feedback, Doug. We are living in
> interesting times :)
>
> Sheila
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Ah, both versions swing, Sheila. But I think, Bill, that you are looking
> > for ‘a’ meaning that her poems tend to slide around, & into multiple
(or,
> > indeed, multiplex) possibilities, instead. A bunch, gathered.
> >
> > So, I enjoyed that sharp opening in the first version, the slap in the
> > face of it.
> >
> > Also enjoyed the lines, words, picked out by others, but also the sly (&
> > implied slimy) 'disruptive screech.’
> >
> > So, really enjoyed it, Sheila, the impetus (very likely that personal
> > political we all suffer from) implied & then refracted through….
> >
> > Doug
> > > On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:58 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Sheila. I favour this second version's opening stanza. Still
> have
> > > trouble with 'Anymore' beginning stanza two. Am I getting closer to
> > imagine
> > > allusion to fresh T-man coinages? Covfefe?
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40104063
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 at 6:25 pm, Patrick McManus <
> > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey Bill I missed the Trumping !!!! read it as an escape poem !! this
> > >> old head -but then perhaps no two readers get exactly the same
> > >> understanding???
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 01/06/2017 08:52, Sheila Murphy wrote:
> > >>> Bill, it may not be you at all! I come to wonder whether line 1 is
> not
> > >> the
> > >>> biggest stumbling block. This may make no diff, but you did give me
a
> > >>> thought. Yes, there are references to the T. Thanks. Sheila
> > >>>
> > >>> Comedia
> > >>>
> > >>> Faced with present
> > >>> prestidigitation,
> > >>> why not
> > >>> major in history?
> > >>>
> > >>> Anymore, the past
> > >>> reverberates with
> > >>> just-so justice,
> > >>> versus an unframed
> > >>>
> > >>> portrait of today,
> > >>> signed by the self-
> > >>> appointed mascot
> > >>> of disruptive screech
> > >>>
> > >>> that implicates
> > >>> its hearers
> > >>> for receiving
> > >>> and rescinding.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Bill Wootton <
> > [log in to unmask]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sleight of hand? I recall the word prestidigitation, sounding like
> > >>>> something a century old magician might get up to. But sorry,
> Sheila, I
> > >> can
> > >>>> make no more sense of this poem than I could of last week's. I'm
> sure
> > >> it's
> > >>>> me but I just can't lock in any sort of interpretation. It's
'about'
> > >> Trump,
> > >>>> maybe? (Most things seem to be these days.) These words, in this
> > order,
> > >> are
> > >>>> inpenetrable to me and I've tried - I've read and re-read a number
> of
> > >>>> times. Is there some 'key' of which I am unaware?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bill
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 at 5:18 pm, Patrick McManus <
> > >>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I am getting ancient had to double check
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> prestidigitation.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and good job I did!! one of those BIG words one wishes to work in
> > >>>>> thanks Sheila ah the safety of studying history (unless one is
some
> > >> sort
> > >>>>> of denier!!
> > >>>>> cheers P 9off on short holiday -I hate holidays but well duty
calls
> > !!
> > >>>>> On 01/06/2017 03:41, Sheila Murphy wrote:
> > >>>>>> Lockstep splinters
> > >>>>>> faced with
> > >>>>>> prestidigitation.
> > >>>>>> Why not
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> major in history?
> > >>>>>> Anymore, the past
> > >>>>>> reverberates with
> > >>>>>> just-so justice,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> versus an unframed
> > >>>>>> portrait of today,
> > >>>>>> signed by the self-
> > >>>>>> appointed mascot
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> of disruptive screech
> > >>>>>> that implicates
> > >>>>>> its hearers for
> > >>>>>> receiving and rescinding.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sheila E. Murphy
> > >>
> >
> > Douglas Barbour
> > [log in to unmask]
> > https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
> >
> > Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations &
Continuations
> > 2 (UofAPress).
> > Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
> > Listen. If (UofAPress):
> >
> > I go down to the Twilight Arcade
> > and watch the Martian invaders,
> > already appalled by our language,
> > pointing at what they want.
> >
> > Bill Manhire
> >
>
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