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Re: Ingenta connect Library Membership

From:

Paul Calow <[log in to unmask]>

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An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:49:15 +0100

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Hi,

I don’t know what an institution pays for Ingenta Library membership, or the services provided, but if you are considering the adoption of RedLink’s new Library Dashboard tool there are significant discounts available on both the set up fee and annual subscription fee if you are an Ingenta Library member. One may help to justify the cost of the other, if you see what I mean?!

I should say that Burgundy is no way affiliated to Ingenta but we are the exclusive UK/Euro distributor for RedLink’s Library Dashboard.

Regards,

Paul Calow, Director
Burgundy Information Services Ltd.

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> On 20 Apr 2017, at 15:24, Mark Williams <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Just to let you know that the UK federation has previously expressed concern to Ingenta that they are now making a charge for access to resources via the UK federation (either though Open Athens, Shibboleth or other compliant UK federation compatible means).
> 
> We highlighted a number of points outlined below.  I shall contact Ingenta shortly as a follow up and will keep this list updated. Please also feel free to discuss this issue with me directly.
> 
> 
> •	The UK federation is provided by Jisc, free at the point of use for all Service Providers as well as UK HE and FE. Unlike some other federations, we do not charge Service Providers as we consider Federated Single Sign On to be a vital part of the community infrastructure and a bench mark of resource access that we do not wish to see any barriers added to. 
> 
> •	Additionally Service Provider membership of the UK federation, which Ingenta enjoys, provides access to Institutions all around the globe via eduGAIN. Again, that access is provided free of charge by Jisc.
> 
> •	We consider that Service Provider charging for federated access above normal IP access, only undermines the advantages, both economic and user experience wise that federated single sign on provides and would ask that Ingenta, as a UK federation member reconsider its new policy of differential pricing according the access method, as it applies to the UK HE and FE community. 
> 
> •	The UK federation policy of not charging Service Providers is made possible by the central funding of the service by the UK HE and FE funding bodies.
> 
> 
> Mark
> Mark Williams 
> UK federation Manager
> 
> T: 02030066042 (Direct)   
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> Jisc
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Verity Allison
> Sent: 20 April 2017 15:07
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] Ingenta connect Library Membership
> 
> Hi,
> Many thanks for the responses. 
> 
> I am inclined to agree on the point of the features covered by the membership really being core functionality as far as we our concerned - I am also frustrated at only finding out now as this may have had an impact on our decisions had we known at the time we were processing our renewals.
> 
> Thanks again all,
> Verity
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Francis [tbf]
> Sent: 20 April 2017 14:16
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [lis-e-resources] Ingenta connect Library Membership
> 
> Hi Verity,
> 
> No, I didn't get the email when they initially sent it round, but a friend at another library did and they forwarded it to me - so I was aware of the changes, but in a roundabout way. No, we aren't taking out a membership. Our budget is very tight and we can't really justify spending money on stuff that's not actual content. I also don't want to encourage the precedent of charging us to conveniently access our subscribed content; as far as I'm concerned, these membership "benefits" are the sort of basic functionality that should be included in our subscription, without having to pay extra.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Grumpy of Aberystwyth!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Verity Allison
> Sent: 20 April 2017 13:30
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [lis-e-resources] Ingenta connect Library Membership
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have just tried to update some of our authentication details on the Ingenta connect platform and have found that where we have previously had institutional authentication via shibboleth this is now only available if we take 'Library Membership' at an additional cost to our subscriptions.
> 
> This seems to have been introduced in late 2016 and I am not quite sure how/why we weren't made aware of it previously.
> 
> I would be interested to know on/off list experiences elsewhere - were you made aware of this change and have you decide for or against taking membership?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Verity
> __
> Verity Allison
> Journals and E-resources Librarian
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