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Re: Dylan

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Jeremy Hardingham <[log in to unmask]>

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British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 17 Oct 2016 09:00:49 +0100

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On 2016-10-17 08:04, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> Of course the Earl of Oxford wrote the Shakespeare plays Kent.
> Likewise, Whitman and Dickinson were written by Abraham Lincoln, who
> faked his own assassination in order to pursue his bisexual literary
> career.
> 
> On 17 October 2016 at 07:33, Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the 'doubtaboutwill' source, Kent. I'd forgotten it, and
>> it's wonderful to read those germane bits again.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> On 17 October 2016 at 00:43, Kent Johnson
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> I don't recall "withdrawing." Maybe I sent this link in as the
>> position that I find most "convincing" and left it at that? As I do
>> again.
>> 
>> Sir Derek Jacobi and Mark Rylance, two very widely respected people
>> in the field of Shakespeare theater had a central hand in the
>> writing and endorsement of this document.
>> 
>> https://doubtaboutwill.org/declaration [1]
>> 
>> Ken McLeod, by the way, makes brief appearance in a quirky essay I
>> had in the Chicago Review some years back re: British poetry.
>> 
>> Kent
>> 
>>>>> Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask]> 10/16/16 6:28
>> PM >>>
>> 
>> On 17 October 2016 at 00:03 Kent Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robin, I have a hazy memory of something or other. But did you
>> settle the matter once and for all in favor of the Stratfordian
>> case? If so, please forgive my poor memory. You should tell us how,
>> once again, as I'm sure the increasingly nervous deniers of any
>> reasonable doubt around Shakespeare's identity will be happy to
>> receive your momentous proof.
>> 
>> Well, I don't know whether or not I won, Kent, but you did withdraw
>> from the argument. Only time I ever remember you doing that. This
>> is possibly why my memory of the incident is clearer than yours.
>> 
>> The matter certainly wasn't settled, at least to your satisfaction,
>> but that's what happened.
>> 
>> I can't remember which list it was on, and I can't be bothered to
>> google for it, otherwise I'd post a link. As it is, I'm not going
>> to fash myself repeating what I said.
>> 
>> Whatever, nice to have you here. I do check out Dispatches
>> occasionally, but I'm pushed for time, what with this and that, and
>> it's not really my scene any more.
>> 
>> Hey, you'd like Ken McLeod's work, that came up earlier. Glasgow
>> student politics in the seventies (after my time -- he's about ten
>> years younger than me) was sort of like where you are? used to be?
>> at. You'd probably get more of KMcL's jokes in some areas than me
>> -- some were deeply involuted, and I don't mean the Glasgow
>> references. How about [not signalled as such] a Troskyite version
>> of the Dilly Song? Children, come as I call you, I think it's
>> called in America. My jaw dropped when I read it. He chucks it in
>> just in passing, then moves on. Gallusl! Even the title has a 4I
>> insider spin -- _The Star Fraction._
>> 
>> Robin.
>> 
>>>>> Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask]> 10/16/16 5:54
>> PM >>>
>> 
>> On 16 October 2016 at 23:42 Kent Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> All this talk about Dylan the plagiarist or Dylan the selfish and
>> petty one...
>> 
>> Sounds like Dylan and Shakespeare have some habits and demeanors in
>> common.
>> 
>> Assuming "Shakespeare" really_ was_ the virtually undocumented
>> Stratford man who scrawled his name, in nearly all extant instances,
>> as Shakspere.
>> 
>> Hi, Kent!
>> 
>> Remember the last time we had this particular argument in public?
>> _I _do. :-).
>> 
>> "who scrawled his name, in nearly all extant instances, as
>> Shakspere." Hey, you didn't say that the last time round, as I
>> remember. I'm almost tempted. But no, I'll be good, and gracefully
>> withdraw. I mean, _LOTS_ of people say that, what you've just said,
>> so it must be true. Musn't it?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Robin
> 
> --
> 
> David Joseph Bircumshaw
> 
> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> [2]
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw [3]
> Tumblr: http://zantikus.tumblr.com/ [4]
> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave [5]
> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ [6]
> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://doubtaboutwill.org/declaration
> [2] http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> [3] http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> [4] http://zantikus.tumblr.com/
> [5] http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> [6] http://groggydays.blogspot.com/


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