Jamie thanks for finally being explicit about your stance regarding the problematic status of the problem. Had you not said so now, I would be none the wiser, going by the determined nature of your arguments to prove mine as incorrect. However, I accept that now you have come to a more “nuanced” position, and given this (and Mark Weiss’s more than satisfactory answer to my original query) I would like to withdraw from this debate.
I appreciate that your tendency towards tenacious argumentative nit picking in debates on this list is something of a trademark for you (and I usually enjoy it when “lurking” on this list) but to have to endure it myself is quite another matter. And so I think I will leave quietly now and let others “mop up”.
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Jamie McKendrick wrote:
David, I don't wish it to be unproblematical, nearly everything I've said has argued for the problematical status and closeness of the two arts. That something is 'harder to determine' doesn't mean that no difference exists nor that it's too insignificant to bother with.
My references to Dylan Thomas and Dante (misquoted) are entirely relevant to Peter's argument about the poet's referencing music and so not a red herring at all. Have a look at the argument again.
Just a joke about singing in social situations - the parentheses were meant to indicate this.
These really are minuscule objections. We don't agree so let's leave it there.
Jamie
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