Thanks, Robert. I think your comments are not romantic nor unrealistic. Your analysis puts a lot of issues on the table to reflect upon, analytically and politically. We have to take those seriously because they tell us a lot about how contemporary society actually works, or better fails to work.
Kind regards,
Hans
Dr. H.G. (Hans) Siebers
Associate professor / Universitair hoofddocent
Director Mastertrack Management of Cultural Diversity
Researcher in cultural diversity in organisations / ethnic inequality in the labour market
Dept. Cultuurwetenschappen / Culture studies / Babylon
Tilburg University
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Van: Race & Ethnicity Study Group (BSA) List [[log in to unmask]] namens Moore, Robert [[log in to unmask]]
Verzonden: vrijdag 24 juni 2016 19:14
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Onderwerp: Re: [BSA-RACE] 'Racism and the EU Referendum: a state of emergency'
Hans, I don't know much about the press in the Netherlands. But the most popular mass circulation papers in the UK lied and lied and lied about the EU and they lied daily in big headlines. It is, after all, their job to persuade the British public to vote against their own interests - and they are very good at it. We have one generally pro-working-class paper - but no real left-wing press to oppose the majority newpapers. TV and radio take their lead from the newspapers and regard people like Farage as exciting news stories. He is preferred to boring people who just try to tease out the complexity of issues. Thus we had endless soundbites and little analysis.
The decision to allow only two offical campaigns was a master-stroke because it tied a divided Labour party to the government's agenda. Thus no one ever made a case stating the benefits of EU membership for ordinary citizens or the need to overcome the democratic deficit and forge ... what shall we say .... 'a people's Europe'. The case for the ordinary citizen was thus never made and the government would not want it to be made because it was contrary to their agenda. Nor would the British Labour party want to say anything that sounded remotely socialist. OK, perhaps these are romantic or unrealistic comments but they serve to underline how one-sided the whole campaign was.
There was some sort of a case for leaving but on balance the case for staying was very, very, much stronger. It would have been dangerous for the leavers to allow reasoned discussion, they needed to steer people away from that. They therefore campaigned on racist/xenophic lines - it was easy to draw on reservoirs of prejudice and fear in order to make this a success. A quick look at the distribution of the results suggest that those with most to lose from leaving the EU voted to leave (including areas that have received substantial EU funds). My county (two Labour-voting parliamentary constituencies) voted 56% to leave; our largest and highest paying private sector employer is Airbus Industrie.
The left has no monopoly on mobilising the poorest and vulnerable members of society.
Greetings from beside the Irish Sea.
Robert
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Dear all,
From across the North Sea, let me express my deep sadness about the decision in the British referendum to leave the EU. How on earth is it possible that overtly cheating, lying, deceiving and vicious politicians are able to seduce a majority of people to vote for something that is so obviously against their interests and the interests of a whole continent. The Putins and Erdogans of this world - is Boris Johnson part of them? - rejoice in what is happening: their major opponent for realising their absolute and expansionist power dreams is getting divided. Their allies within Europe, like Marine le Pen, Geert Wilders, Jerzi Urban and Frauke Petri just to mention some of them, join their party. Never since the end of two world wars has this part of the world been under such a severe threat to its democracy, prosperity, rule of law, human rights, trias politica and everyting that societal life makes worth living, than now. I know it is always very tricky to make historical comparisons because they never match perfectly, history never repeats itself, but the evil ghost of nationalism is again roaming through Europe similar to the run up to the first world war. At that time, a period of intense globalisation and freedom of exchange, trade, travel and migration - the belle epoque - came to an end when border controls were erected, people were stopped at borders all of a sudden or were discriminated against because of their origins, among the population a naive idea existed that things could not go wrong, while they slowly but steadily were subdued and lured into the vicious notion of having to be part of someting like a nation. That time and based on that notion, the Germans gave the decisive blow to the fragile ordering of the world, now the Brits seem to do the same. Then Wilhelm, now Boris. To the younger British generation , I woud like to ask: do you accept this? Are you willing to keep silent while you are locked in on a 'small and increasingly (self-made) insignificant island off the coast of Europe'? Your voice has apparently not been heard in the referendum, so it is about time to talk a bit louder. The British have decided to want to live in the past, not in the future, who needs a 19th century notion of national sovereignty in the 21th century? Do they really believe that they can get their empire, their industry and prosperity back by nostagic dreams about national independence and isolation? I write this because I live in a place that is most likely to be the next stop for the nationalist ghost to do its devastating work. I just had hoped the British would have stopped it....
Hans
Dr. H.G. (Hans) Siebers
Associate professor / Universitair hoofddocent
Director Mastertrack Management of Cultural Diversity
Researcher in cultural diversity in organisations / ethnic inequality in the labour market
Dept. Cultuurwetenschappen / Culture studies / Babylon
Tilburg University
PO Box / Postbus 90 153
5000 LE Tilburg
Room D 228 (Dante building)
The Netherlands
E-mail: [log in to unmask]
Tel: + 31 13 466 3326 / + 31 6 519 56 382
http://www.tilburguniversity.edu/nl/webwijs/show/h.g.siebers_nl.htm
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Verzonden: vrijdag 24 juni 2016 17:34
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Hi Robert and Iyiola,
I am travelling back from a conference in Liverpool and similar academics this morning have been reiterating the same.
In regards to BSA 2017 and reporting back Brexit experiences, discourses and implications: is it worth networking and linking within the BSA group and beyond a symposium or similar to collate research in preparation for the conference?
I feel it's 'now' I should be capturing and analysing this raw data regarding my own thoughts etc. and sharing these to help people understand and empathise its impact. I cannot help but feel those who voted Brexit fully understand its implications regarding racism and it's my, our, responsibility to provide a platform to start this debate based on our experiences.
Any thoughts? Thank you.
All the best,
Nikki
> On 24 Jun 2016, at 16:16, Moore, Robert <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Yes, I posted something similar before the referendum - very little serious work by sociologist on the EU, although European labour migration was a topic earlier on. This will not be a UK emergency alone, I imagine Marine le Pen and her opposite number in Hungary will now become even more active on 'race' issues. Others will then join in. Russia is reported to be providing significant funding for the far right across Europe (but not in Ukraine, presumably).
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> Robert
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> Professor Robert Moore
> School of Sociology and Social Policy
> Eleanor Rathbone Building
> The University of Liverpool
> L69 7ZA
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> Telephone and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456
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> From: Iyiola Solanke [[log in to unmask]]
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> To: Race & Ethnicity Study Group (BSA) List; Moore, Robert
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> Bearing in mind the referendum result, there is even more trouble ahead.
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> I think one theme needs to be getting the best for BMEs in Britain during the EU membership re-negotiations. Who do we want to lead the Conservative Party? Does it make any difference?
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> Also on your other point, there are a few of us who have engaged in the EU over the years - I have taught EU law since the 1990s and wrote my thesis on it. This is maybe a moment where we need to commit to doing more. A panel at BSA 2017 might be a good idea.
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> Best wishes,
> Iyiola
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>> On 22/06/2016 11:29, "Race & Ethnicity Study Group (BSA) List on behalf of Moore, Robert" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> The issues raised in these articles and Kehinde's original contribution to the exchange are critical issues. Against the background set out in these articles the 'Prevent' strategy could be seen as a pathetic diversion or a sinister threat.
>> We don't know what the outcome of tomorrow's referendum will be. Whatever the outcome the campaign has brought into the open the forces described. It's as bad as 1968. I wonder if anyone has looked at Daily Mail and Express headlines from 1965 to 1968 to see how they compare with the same papers' headlines in recent months. My recollection is that they are very similar.
>> Are we going backwards or is just that the realities of racism have become more open? Whichever, there are deeply troubled times ahead.
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>> What will be the focus of our contributions to the BSA conference - our themes for 2017?
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>> Robert
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>> Professor Robert Moore
>> School of Sociology and Social Policy
>> Eleanor Rathbone Building
>> The University of Liverpool
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>> Telephone and fax: 44 (0) 1352 714456
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>> I would also recommend Brendan McGeever's 'Racism and the EU Referendum: a state of emergency'
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>> https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brendan-mcgeever/racism-and-eu-referendum-state-of-emergency
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>> Best,
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>> Aaron
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