Ron did some useful debating in his blogging heyday, though. Searching the blog for Grenier's name brings up a useful haul.
http://ronsilliman.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=Grenier
I happened to notice this, on crickets and their relevance to Grenier and Saroyan:
>>A word that turns out to be important to both poets is crickets. Not only does Saroyan have a couple of poems that allude not just to the critter, but to the great summer drone of insects, one of Grenier’s best known essays explores the ways in which Keats’ own use of the term – “hedge-crickets sing” – milk
words of all possible letter/phonemic qualities without really challenging notion of English word/morpheme as basic unit of ‘meaning.
My favorite of Saroyan’s several cricket poems is one that falls into the neo-Zukofsian category:
Not a
cricket
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