Thanks, Bill.
'It is actively disrespectful.’ So sayeth the writer, but much of what Ive read by Seidel is precisely that, including to the narrative voice of the poems. Sometimes that can work well; sometimes not.
Doug
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Pretty savage dismantling of Seidel hete, Doug, Max, not least in terms of
> its publishing timing.
>
> http://towncrier.puritan-magazine.com/debate/ballad-of-ferguson/
>
> Mind you, puritan magazine?
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I confess Ive only read his poems in the LRB, & am not sure if I ‘like’
>> them or not. He revels, with great irony, in his ‘place’ as a rich
>> connoisseur of a rich life, but the interview suggests the ironies are
>> meant to cut.
>>
>> What he says about wanting to be ‘heard’ in the poems is interesting, as
>> he works end rhyme hard, for it sometimes seems to me obvious laughs…
>>
>> I don’t feel the need to read that much more of his work (have too many
>> other works to read anyway).
>>
>> Doug
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Seidel: anything on line I find striking
>>>
>>> inc the Ferguson one, but scary,
>>>
>>> or am I too nervy?
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 17:51, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well he is new to me, Max but like Seidel, in my own small way of
>> course, I
>>>> too
>>>>
>>>> feel, when I’m not writing, less well than when I am. When I am
>> writing, I
>>>> feel that my life is busy. That I’m a creature with a purpose. When I’m
>>>> not, I feel a bit floaty. Sometimes, not always, that’s not a pleasant
>>>> feeling. It’s something you have to put up with, of course – you can’t
>>>> write all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting about R D Laing and crowd being stony musicians. Have yet to
>>>> read any of Seidel's poetry. Would you recommend starting with this
>> latest!?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/06/frederick-seidel-interview-widening-income-inequality
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/11/25/the-ballad-of-ferguson-missouri/
>>>>>
>>>>> Seidel I guess is very pained about what happened in Ferguson,
>>>>>
>>>>> but a lot of the time I just can’t follow him…
>>>>>
>>>>> Max in Seattle
>>
>> Douglas Barbour
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>>
>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations
>> 2 (UofAPress).
>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>>
>> Automobile Accident
>>
>> Not finding where the flowers were
>> he seized a tree.
>>
>> Lorine Niedecker
>>
Douglas Barbour
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Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations 2 (UofAPress).
Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
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Not finding where the flowers were
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