I think identity is a tricky issue, and one that I have little control
over. When I dip into the art world, I am generally identified by others
as an academic. In the academic world, some identify me as an artist (or
perhaps a second-rate playwright). But my general contractor identifies me
as the home owner. And I identity myself as a tourist, trying to enjoy and
make sense of this strange world I am visiting.
On 4/20/16, 3:22 AM, "Aesthetics, Creativity, and Organisations Research
Network on behalf of Hatch, Mary Jo (mjh9d)" <[log in to unmask] on
behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>I too have been listening in for some time. On this new topic of artist
>or academic I have a few thoughts based on my personal experiences that
>might be of interest to some.
>
>I have been for the most part serial in my commitments to artistic and
>academic pursuits. First I studied to be an artist (architect then
>poet/writer), then became an academic researcher (and writer) but only
>after working in a marketing job and doing an MBA in finance. Now I am
>now pursuing a second career as an artist (oil painter this time). The
>red thread academically was that my research always had an aesthetic
>interest for me (organizational architecture, managerial humor, jazz as a
>metaphor for organizing, the development of genres of painting as a
>source of insight into how organization theorizing changes over time). So
>in a way I guess I wasn't that serial, having mixed my research with my
>artistic interests and imagination.
>
>On reflection, however, and as someone who worked (academically) on
>organizational culture and identity as well as branding issues, I propose
>the following:
>
>1) that culturally artists and academics typically diverge considerably,
>2) identify is tough to maintain in an in-between (liminal?) state, at
>least I find my artistic identity easily destroyed by my academic one
>3) as far as branding is concerned, I can so only one reason why anybody
>would want to brand themselves an academic artist (to get or keep their
>job in a university), though an artistic academic has quite a nice ring
>to it
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mary Jo
>
>
>
>Mary Jo Hatch
>C. Coleman McGehee Eminent Scholars Research Professor of Banking and
>Commerce, Emerita, University of Virginia
>Visiting Professor, IEDC Bled School of Management, Slovenia
>International Research Fellow, Centre for Corporate Reputation, Said
>Business School, Oxford University
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>From: Aesthetics, Creativity, and Organisations Research Network
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>Ralph;
>
>the answer is YES to both propositions...but explaining why will bring
>men in white coats running across the fields....
>
>David
>
>(still trying to be both...)
>David Weir
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>On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 09:58:56 +1000, Ralph Kerle
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Aacorners,
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> I have followed this conversation with really great interest. It has
>>been most informative. As I was kayaking this morning on Sydney's Middle
>>Harbour practising my photographic art, a thought bubble popped into my
>>consciousness.
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>>
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>> Can an artist be an academic?
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>> Can an academic be an artist?
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>> I couldn't find an answer and seek this august bodies thoughts.
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>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Ralph
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