And when have I dismissed mine exploration?
My problem with your post was in not identifying the location of a 'caving' related café on an international mining history discussion list. I am sure I was not alone in having no idea where it was!
As for mine exploration - it is to be recommended. Just remember, unlike caving in natural features, you are walking/crawling over and through the archaeology from top to the bottom of the mine. If you had listened to my presentation at the last Hidden Earth conference, you would know that I believe the speleological skills of mine explorers are key to accessing and recording subterranean archaeology.
As to the position in France - there are problems with access, not least due to the actions of the geological/mineral authorities (BRGM) in sealing entrances, but mining archaeologists there are skilled in techniques which allow them to access and record the evidence, and that is to be encouraged. They are the key to maintaining access.
We are lucky in Wales, Scotland and England in being allowed access, and responsible exercise of that 'right' is essential - and that is what NAMHO promotes.
Peter
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From: Mike Moore<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [mining-history] Bernies Café and Caving Shop
Peter
except in France Archaeology prevents any access for mine explorers.
You are also Vice Chair of NAHMO representing a significant number of
active underground Explorers you should not me so dismissive of the activity
Mike
On 26 Mar 2016 11:40 p.m., "Claughton, Peter" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Six years? It's longer than that!
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> Anyway, Ingleton is predominantly coal mines so not much chance of
> accessible underground archaeology there.
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> But, joking apart, it does raise the question as whether you train
> archaeologists in speleological techniques, or cavers as archaeologists.
> Probably a blend of the two - the French have certainly got it right on
> that count.
>
> Peter
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