Dear Colleagues,
Yes, prompt helpful responses — an excellent way of having the group serve as a scholarly resource. I will suggest the same to the NAAHoLS group at our meeting this week at LSA in Washington DC.
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From: Mark Atherton <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 6:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Quintilian and the four skills?
Yes a very good exchange!
Mark Atherton
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Oxford University
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Subject: Re: Quintilian and the four skills?
That's a wonderful exchange, thank you all for this.
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Dear All:
As the author of the statement in question, I can report that the the Quintilian citation is 10.1.1. The declaration that listening is inferred as part of reading is based on several places in the Institutio oratoria. The arguments pro and con about vocalized reading in antiquity can be found in R.W. McCutcheon, "Silent Reading in Antiquity and the Future of the Book". Book History 18 (2015): 1-32. This is a complex matter, but there is much evidence in the text to to indicate that sound was on Quintilian's mind when teaching reading, as can be seen beginning with Book One.
All the best,
Jerry
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, David Cram <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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The four activities are already mentioned in the Preface to the Art of Rhetoric, para 27, and then pursued passim. There's an online translation at
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Can anyone help me trace where Quintilian says something along the lines of “teaching depends on the interrelation of four activities: reading, writing, speaking, and listening. No one was more important than the others”. This is the summary
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