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Re: Semantically correct way to link person/place/etc. to a URI in TEI

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Leif Isaksen <[log in to unmask]>

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The Digital Classicist List <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:53:36 -0600

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Hi all

FWIW it would be great if folks could establish a convention for TEI
as then we should be able to write a script that converts to Open
Annotation (and thus Pelagios, etc.) and vice versa.

All the best

Leif

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Michelson, David Allen
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Gabby and Ethan,
>
> We have mainly used tei:@ref (following the TEI schema of
> http://www.fihrist.org.uk/ with whom our data needs to be compatible, even
> though as you say this usage may not be the best):
>
> In the msDesc
>
> <tei:persName ref=“http://syriaca.org/person/113”>Jacob, Bishop of
> <placeName ref=“http://syriaca.org/place/78">Edessa</placeName></persName>
>
>
> or
>
> <tei:author ref="http://syriaca.org/person/10"><persName
> type="uniform">Aphrahaṭ</persName></author>
>
> I would love for there to be a bit more standardized rules for this though
> because sometimes we also use tei:idno when @ref is not allowed. One area
> where there is no easy solution is when we would like to link an external
> URI to a tei:msIdentifier which ends up looking like this:
>
> <msItem>
> <note>The this item is the same text as that found
> <bibl><msIdentifier><idno ref=”http://syriaca.org/manuscript/80”>Add.
> 12,181 <locus from=”10a”>fol.
> 10a</locus></idno></msIdentifier></bibl>.</note>
> </msItem>
>
>
> It would be great if the TEI could come up with a global @ for URI that
> could be put on any element or else allow tei:idno everywhere.
>
> I would love to hear what others are doing.
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/8/16, 11:16 AM, "The Digital Classicist List on behalf of Gabriel
> Bodard" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>Hi Ethan,
>>
>>I think we've tended to use tei:idno inside tei:person for these
>>canonical references to external authorities for persons (in LGPN,
>>PIR, SNAP etc.)--by the same token with use tei:idno inside tei:place
>>to point to Pleiades identifiers. Does that work for you?
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Gabby
>>
>>On 8 January 2016 at 16:59, Ethan Gruber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I am doing some TEI work, and I want to link the people, corporate
>>>bodies,
>>> places, etc. to URIs in external vocabularies to facilitate serializing
>>> annotations for these entities into RDF or to provide links to users to
>>> gather more information about these entities or subjects in other
>>>projects.
>>>
>>> I plan to put lists of unique entities appearing in the document in the
>>> particDesc/settingDesc in the profileDesc of the TEI header.
>>>
>>> Suppose I have a person element:
>>>
>>> <person xml:id="blah">
>>>    <persName>Augustus</persName>
>>> </person>
>>>
>>> The linking attributes for person seem to correspond to other elements
>>> within the current XML document. The ref and ptr elements can point to
>>>an
>>> external URI, but the TEI schema mandates that these be in the persName,
>>> placeName, and orgName elements, which does not seem semantically
>>>correct
>>> for my case.
>>>
>>> I have come across this:
>>>
>>>http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-att.canonical.htm
>>>l
>>> which I think will work in my case, but I interpret the use of key/ref
>>> attributes as the source for the form of the name rather than a URI that
>>> defines the concept of the person.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Ethan
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Dr Gabriel BODARD
>>Reader in Digital Classics
>>
>>Institute of Classical Studies
>>University of London
>>Senate House
>>Malet Street
>>London WC1E 7HU
>>
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>>T: +44 (0)20 78628752
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