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Re: HE Information Bill

From:

Gwen Van Der Velden <[log in to unmask]>

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Gwen Van Der Velden <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:42:37 +0000

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Dear colleagues,



The interesting angle is of course that this bill would apply also to alternative providers as they fall under the description given in the Bill. Some of the data is not provided for alternative providers and that includes the NSS -which the best alternative providers would love to be part of, btw.



Interesting times!

Gwen



-----Original Message-----

From: Giles I.G. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 

Sent: 20 October 2015 20:23

To: Gwen Van Der Velden <[log in to unmask]>

Cc: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: HE Information Bill



Colleagues,



I would just like to point out that the Bill Ray refers to below is a Private Members Bill. As such you may like to know that few Private Members Bill get enough time to reach the statute book (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/may/15/eu-referendum-bill-cameron-data). There is a draw that all members can enter and the lucky “winners" can introduce a Bill of their own personal interest - mainly to get some air time to raise an issue they believe is of wider interest (http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/laws/bills/private-members/). The Government may, at a later stage, modify the ideas an incorporate them into a Government Bill if they , which has a greater chance of being passed.



I would suggest that all colleagues continue to lobby Jo Johnson as the relevant Government Minister in the way that Gwen and Elizabeth have already had the opportunity to do.



Best wishes,

Ian

______________

Dr Ian G. Giles PFHEA

Emeritus Fellow, Medical Education, Faculty of Medicine University of Southampton



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On 20 Oct 2015, at 18:43, Gwen Van Der Velden <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:



When I met with Jo Johnson two weeks ago, the teaching qualifications no longer came up. We did not raise it either though!



Gwen van der Velden



Sent by mobile device.



On 20 Oct 2015, at 17:38, "Elizabeth Cleaver" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:



Dear Rosa and SEDA colleagues,



I mentioned this clearly  in my submission to Jo Johnson when I was invited to speak with him and contribute to TEF discussions. How far this will impact on the Green Paper I am uncertain - but I can assure you the point was made.



Best wishes



Elizabeth Cleaver

Director of Learning Enhancement and Academic Practice University of Hull



Chair of Heads of Educational Development Group



From: Rosa Spencer<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎20‎ ‎October‎ ‎2015 ‎17‎:‎27

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>



My thoughts exactly.



Although I think we all understand what is meant by that statement, the distinction between teaching 'qualification' and 'recognition' is actually quite important. Having HEA fellowships counted in the HESA Academic Teaching Qualifications field means that HEA recognition has come to be equated with teaching qualification. The description of this field does actually make the distinction between the two but clearly that nuance has been lost: "This field records whether or not academic staff hold a higher education teaching qualification, another relevant teaching qualification, or have been recognised in other ways for their teaching expertise".



You could say this is irrelevant so long as we (the group responsible for recognition within institutions) are clear on what this means but in recent months I've been battling the knock-on effects of this - that those individuals gaining HEA recognition are 'licenced to teach'...and I think we can all see how this will be framed within the TEF metrics.



How do we correct this?



Rosa



>-----Original Message-----

>From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development 

>Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Gossman

>Sent: 20 October 2015 16:48

>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

>Subject: Re: HE Information Bill

>

>Hi All

>

>Does the HEA award 'teaching qualifications'?

>

>Peter

>________________________________________

>From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development 

>Association [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on behalf 

>of LAND L.R. [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]

>Sent: 20 October 2015 16:27

>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

>Subject: HE Information Bill

>

>Dear All

>

>Just to let you know that the Higher Education Information Bill has 

>been published and will get its second reading on Friday.

>http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2015-

>2016/0021/150021.pdf

>

>It's a Private Member's Bill from Heidi Allen, Conservative MP for 

>South Cambridgeshire, which will require English universities to make 

>available to prospective and current students more information about 

>what they get for their tuition fees, ie what fees are charged, what 

>the money is spent on, what the student gets for their money etc.

>

>UUK did some work on this agenda in 2010: UUK with the 'Making It Count'

>publication and video

>http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/highereducation/Pages/MakingItCount.asp

>x#.V iY8OJ1wb-Y  and it and the Russell Group may have more recent 

>publications.

>However, the information set required by this Bill to be published to 

>prospective/current students goes way beyond a 'student experience' 

>narrative and is very detailed.

>

>Some of the key data which English HEIs would be required to publish are:

>

>1"Institutional information" referred to in section 1(2) of this Act is 

>the following information in relation to all full-time or part-time 

>courses of higher education that are intended to be provided by the 

>institution in the 12 months following the reference date-

>

>(a) the proportion of teaching staff who deliver

>

>(a) the proportion of teaching staff who deliver undergraduate courses 

>who have a teaching qualification awarded by the Higher Education 

>Academy or equivalent;

>(b) the amount the institution spends per undergraduate student per 

>year on academic services (such as library or information technology 

>services) and student services (such as careers advice or sporting 

>facilities);

>

>(c) the proportion of additional fee income the institution spends on 

>widening access to higher education for undergraduate students;

>

>(d) the average annual cost of renting accommodation owned by the 

>institution and the number of accommodation units to which 

>undergraduate students can reasonably expect to have access;

>

>(e) the average annual cost of private rental accommodation in the area 

>in which the institution is situated; and

>(f) the number of complaints made in the year prior to the reference 

>date by or on behalf of undergraduate students, prospective 

>undergraduate students or former undergraduate students and the 

>proportion of those students who were satisfied with the way the institution handled the complaint.

>2 "Course information" referred to in section 1(2) of this Act is the 

>following information in relation to each full-time or part-time course 

>of higher education that is intended to be provided by the institution 

>in the 12 months following the reference date-

>

>(a) the proportion of students who indicated as part of the National 

>Student Survey that-

>(i) feedback provided as part of the course was prompt;

>(ii) feedback provided as part of the course helped them clarify things 

>that they did not understand;

>

>(b) the proportion of students who began the course two years prior to 

>the reference date who continued to participate in the same course, or 

>another course at the same institution, in their second year;

>

>(c) the proportion of students who began the course two years prior to 

>the reference date who continued to participate in higher education at 

>another institution in their second year;

>(d) the destination of graduates who completed the course in the year 

>prior to the reference date, measured at the point six months after 

>completion, including the proportion who were-

>(i) employed;

>(ii) employed in a graduate level job;

>(iii) in further study; and

>(iv) unemployed;

>

>(e) average course fees (excluding fee waivers) per student per year;

>

>(f) average additional costs (other than course fees) per student per 

>year;

>

>(g) the proportion of students who attended a work placement during the 

>course in the year prior to the reference date;

>

>(h) the number of students that received a fee waiver or other award 

>(in cash or kind) in the year prior to the reference date, the average 

>amount of that award, and the average household income of the students 

>who received an award;

>

>(i) details of professional, statutory and regulatory bodies that 

>recognise the course, including details of the type of recognition;

>

>(j) the average salary, as at December in the year prior to the 

>reference date, of students who completed the course in or around July-

>(i) one year prior to the reference date;

>(ii) four years prior to the reference date; and

>(iii) eight years prior to the reference date;

>

>(k) the number of hours of teaching on the course that are delivered to 

>small, medium and large groups of students respectively, and the number 

>of hours of private study time expected each week;

>

>(l) the proportion of the assessment for the course that is comprised 

>of-

>(i) coursework;

>(ii) written examinations;

>(iii) other methods of assessment;

>

>(m) the proportion of teaching on the course that is provided by an 

>academic member of staff; and

>

>(n) UCAS tariff scores for students studying the course one year prior 

>to the reference date.

>

>The progress of the Bill can be followed at 

>http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/highereducationinformation.

>html

>

>Best wishes

>

>Ray

>______________________________________________________________

>Professor Ray Land MA MSc PhD FRSA PFHEA Director, Centre for Academic 

>Practice (CAP) Professor of Higher Education School of Education Durham 

>University Leazes Road Durham DH1 1TA United Kingdom

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