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Re: W.T. Harry - Greenside Lead Mine

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Tony Brooks <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi Duncan

William Thomas Harry was at CSM 1919-1922

In 1951  his address was in Penzance as mentioned previously

In 1961/2 he was involved in an attempt to re-open the little Carnelloe Mine 
here in Cornwall (mentioned both in M&Q Magazine and in the Mining Magazine)

Years ago I wrote history of the Roan Antelope but did not come across his 
name.  I would be interested to know where you info on him came from.  By 
mid-1927 they had already di=one some 12,000 feet of underground development 
so work must have stated underground at least in 1926 if not earlier.

Cheers

Tony Brooks

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tony Brewis
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:15 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: W.T. Harry - Greenside Lead Mine

Hi, Duncan,
I have never come across W.T. Harry myself, but it occurred to me that if he
had been an underground manager at Roan Antelope and was later at Greenside,
he was probably a member of the former Institution of Mining and Metallurgy
(IMM).
Having been in that institution myself, I looked in a copy of its 1971 List
of Members, which I had on a shelf in my garage. It tells me that in 1971
William Thomas Harry, Associate of Camborne School of Mines, was (presumably
by then retired) living at Tremayne, Tolver Place, Penzance. He was still
there in the 1978 Members' List - I haven't yet checked any later ones. The
1971 booklet tells me that he was a Student Member of the IMM from 1920,
Associate Member from 1929, and Member from 1951. (In later years these
membership category names were changed, Associate Member being now Member,
and Member being now Fellow).
The IMM was, some years ago, absorbed into the Institute of Materials,
Minerals and Mining. This was based at 1, Carlton House Terrace, but as of
this year it  is now headquartered at 297, Euston Road,
London, NW1 3AQ. Its library, however, is at The Boiler House, Springfield
Business Park, Caunt Road, Grantham, Lincolnshire, NG31 7FZ. The Institute's
website is www.iom3.org
For further information on W.T. Harry, I suggest contacting the IoMMM's
library and either going yourself or asking the librarian  to skim through
the IMM's "List of Members" booklets, which used to be produced every year
until such things fell out of favour. I would guess that Harry would have
been listed in them every year since becoming a Student Member - I certainly
was. Whenever someone relocated to a different mine, of course, it would
often take a year for the publication to catch up with the new address, but
generally that list should tell you where he went, and approximately when.
In the old days, the technical monthly Mining Magazine used to publish moves
made by subscribers, prior to it being taken over by Mining Journal Ltd in
1966. For instance, when I took up a job in India in 1957, I wrote to the
publisher to give them my new address, then a few months later in one of the
1958 issues, on a page near the back, it noted amongst others that "Mr A. A.
C Brewis has relocated to India". Terse and to the point! If Harry
subscribed to Mining Magazine, it might also tell you of his moves.
I hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
Tony Brewis

-----Original Message-----
From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Duncan Money
Sent: 03 September 2015 12:19
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Subject: W.T. Harry - Greenside Lead Mine

Dear all,

I was wondering if anyone had come across the mine manager W.T. Harry, or
could suggest where I could possibly find more information on this
individual.

W.T. Harry was briefly mine manager of Greenside Lead Mine in Cumbria from
June 1937 until the end of the year. He is mentioned in passing in Samuel
Murphy's book Grey Gold: Men, Mining & Metallurgy at Greenside Lead Mine in
Cumbria, England 1825-1962 on p. 336, which notes that he was known as 'Mad
Harry' or 'Cowboy Harry', wore a stetson hat and drove a Buick, but supplies
no other information.

I am wondering if this is the same W.T. Harry who was the first underground
manager at Roan Antelope Mine in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) in 1927, but
I have not been able to establish that the two men are the same person.
There was some connection between Greenside and Roan Antelope as one of W.T.
Harry's successors at Greenside was Edwin Charles Bloomfield, who spent
several years working for the Selection Trust, the company which owned and
operated Roan Antelope at this time.

So far, I have looked at Dissolved Companies file for the Basinghall Mining
Syndicate at the National Archive and W.T. Harry does not appear on the
directors list for 1936 or 1937 and looked through the database Mining in
Cornwall & Devon compiled by Roger Burt et al. and he is not listed there
either. Any other suggestions for sources would be very welcome.

My research is generally on the international circulation of mining
engineers and mineworkers, but this is personally interesting for me as I
have visited what remains of Greenside Mine several times over the years.

All the best,

Duncan Money



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