And there’s always Chicago, I guess….
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On Aug 12, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi
> It's difficult not to like but I'm not a particular fan of GM. Well, just
> look at his initials.
> The dread and condemnation are terrible things; and I have seen potential
> contentment ruined by it.
> But I couldn't very well resurrect a man like Elid without going there. And
> the unexpected blast of trumpets put me into it before I knew; so
> hesitation wasn't possible.
> Only thing that I might have mentioned and didn't was that I hesitated over
> when the concepts of the last trump per se came in. I imagine it's Hebrew
> O.T. So I didn't invoke a ast trump as such
> I do know people I think I could usefully ask except I don't want to start
> them going, if you understand me; and they weren't there at the time.
> Anyway, loud music does quite well. It'd probably be brassy and or shrill;
> I don't think they'd have good taste up there whatever Dante said; but now
> I'm wondering if it might be more... I don't know... Celine Dion. Or Kylie.
> Facing the love or wrath of god to "You should be so lucky"
>
> Cheers
>
> L
>
> On 12 August 2015 at 16:16, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Good to have you & lids back, L.
>>
>> Although I rather like that Fifth (in whole of course).
>>
>> That dread & that condemnation certainly enough to keep one snarkily alive…
>>
>> Doug
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> I can't take credit for the feast day. I don't know who does that. Part
>>> timers at Vehicle Registration maybe.
>>> I believe (?) that it was reinstituted relatively recently after a lurk
>> of
>>> some centuries but am surprised to realise I do not know how one checks
>> the
>>> history of such things. Not easily.
>>> I had a quick google on the subject of Elid, which I haven't done for
>> ages,
>>> and found much waffle, usually saying he lived on St Helen's. He may have
>>> lived on what is now St Helen's; but like most of the now islands it is
>>> recent, formed by eustatic rise. It would have been he NW of the main
>>> island then Sure you wanted to know that.
>>> I celebrated by writing him. I don't especially want to be on Scilly in
>>> August, not without a walled compound.
>>> I'm not quite sure when this was written, but recently. Last few days.
>>> BBC Radio blasted me with the opening of Mahler's Fifth, loud trumpets
>> you
>>> know - it was only brief: someone won a doughnut or something for
>>> recognising it - but by then I was full of Stanley Spencer thoughts,
>>> chucking back of green sward sheets and leaping around the graveyard in a
>>> glorified body. It occurred to me that those who had sinned might be less
>>> happy without being told, like Adam and Eve hiding in the bushes.
>>> This much is programmed into me by lay bros; but after more than half a
>>> century of saying shan't, like the cook in Alice, I sought salvation in
>> an
>>> internal declaration that I was writing an Elid poem.
>>> Not an entirely happy process, But when I left E to finish it for me in
>> his
>>> own words I think he gave a sense that he's not entirely at peace with
>> such
>>> concepts either.
>>> Anyway, thanks for writing and seemingly getting something out of it. I
>> may
>>> have finished my lurk - is it the first in a decade? First in a long
>> time.
>>> I have been writing WHAAT on my favourite wall. Probably back now
>>>
>>> L
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>>> On 12 August 2015 at 11:54, Patrick McManus <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well if he did not exist you have created him and a feast day too -how
>> did
>>>> you celebrate? Cheers P who may or may not exist-I am watching out for
>> that
>>>> loud music
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
>>>> Sent: 12 August 2015 11:15
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: from Elidius on Ennor
>>>>
>>>> From *Elidius on Ennor*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When loud music from Heaven ends mere time,
>>>> each here might know how well we have behaved
>>>> in the mind of God. I hope, just then, to feel
>>>> a growing joy; yet, in my mortal gut,
>>>> I have little but dread that I shall start
>>>> in and throughout my emotions, to die
>>>> as I perceive the first notes of the sound:
>>>> that condemnatory melody in Love
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Elidius is one of the names of one who may have lived at some time
>> after
>>>> the Roman period on Scilly, or, as it then seems to have been called,
>>>> Ennor. There is no evidence of him apart from the earlier name of St
>>>> Helen's island, where it is said he may have been buried, Insula Sancti
>>>> Elidii. His feast day is 8th August. Until now he has had no
>> hagiographer.
>>>> ]
>>>>
>>
>> Douglas Barbour
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2
>> (UofAPress).
>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>>
>> Done in by creation itself.
>>
>> I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
>> The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
>> We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
>>
>> Robert Kroetsch.
>>
Douglas Barbour
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Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 (UofAPress).
Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
Done in by creation itself.
I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
Robert Kroetsch.
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