Oh don't get me wrong, I think it is a brilliant idea for the client,
and I would be prepared to do it, ( I don't have the time I should add).
I recommend that you have a look at BSEN 14971 "Medical Devices -
Application of risk management to medical devices"
And maybe BS ISO 7176-14 Wheelchairs - Requirements for electrical
power and control systems
or whatever they are these days.
Good luck.
Geoff
G.J.Harbach I.Eng MIED IIPEM ATPsoc
Registered Clinical Technologist
Rehabilitation Engineering Specialist
Department of Healthcare Science
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thanks Geoff,
I appreciate the detailed response. I do understand there are technical,
safety and ethical issues even if I don't fully understand the
technicalities - I was arguing from a disabled person's perspective in
terms of the freedom of choice it could provide.
thanks again,
Vin
Vin West
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> On 30 Jul 2015, at 10:52, Harbach Geoff
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>
> Hi Vin.
>
> My concerns are primarily of a technical nature. Radio based
> communication interfaces can be subject to interference from external
> sources, and whilst it is possible to implement fail safe systems that
> prevent the chair from driving IF external interference is detected,
> it may not be "safe" for the chair to suddenly stop driving while
> conducting a safety critical manoeuvre like crossing the road etc. I
> site the problem with I think BMW's on tower bridge. A new data
> communication system under trial forced the engine management systems
> to apply the brakes !
>
> How would the radio remote system be de-activated while the occupant
> were driving using the main joystick. The radio joystick could be the
> ONLY joystick, but then you have to have a charging system for the
> joystick and battery capacity to ensure that it would last the whole
> day, and have the relevant warning messages about low battery etc. I
> suspect you would need a properly integrated module for the chair
> control, and a remote method of turning the chair on and off and
> changing mode. Easy to do with a car fob type device.
>
> You can make a wheelchair control out of model aeroplane controls
> using a std radio control kit, I know I have done it, ( but not
> actually for a
> wheelchair) but the risk management aspects of such a system in this
> application would need very careful consideration. In my personal
> opinion. And it would also need to be a medical device !
>
>
> Geoff
>
> G.J.Harbach I.Eng MIED IIPEM ATPsoc Registered Clinical
> Technologist Rehabilitation Engineering Specialist Department of
> Healthcare Science West Midlands Rehabilitation Centre
> 91 Oak Tree Lane, Selly Oak.
> Birmingham B29 6JA
> Tel 0121 466 3066
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> I have to say I don't understand the difference between someone
> driving the chair they are sitting in and calling it across the room
> under control - and from my own experience I can think of numerous
> situations where the ability to call back a chair that has been parked
> out of the way to give PAs access to the bedside would impart real
> choice and control to the wheelchair user.
>
> Vin
>
> Vin West
> Chair
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>> On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:56, Harbach Geoff
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>> I saw a remote controlled powered chair at PMG last year I think.
>> Scares the hell out of me.
>>
>> Technically it is relatively easy to do, but from an ethical point of
>> view it is questionable due to the safety issues.
>>
>> Why would the chair need to be got out of the way ?
>>
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>> Having come across your web-site I thought I should email you for
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>> I am a disabled person and was wondering if there was a such thing as
>> a Remote Control for a Power Chair which would allow you to bring the
>> Chair to and from you when you transfer onto a bed or sofa.
>>
>> If there is, could you please tell me how much it costs and how it
>> can
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>> Let me thank you for your time as I look forward to a reply.
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