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Re: A3+ scanner for 30x40cm x-ray plates of paintings

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"Arca, Anna" <[log in to unmask]>

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AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector" <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 3 Jul 2015 13:20:39 +0000

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Hi Emma,

Thank you for offering this, it's great to know that we just need to go next door to see the scanner in action.
I emailed you directly.

Thanks again,
Anna




Anna Arca
Photographer
The National Gallery
Trafalgar Square
London
WC2N 5DN
Tel:  020 7747 2544 - 2314

Please note, I am part-time and only work Thursdays and Fridays

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From: AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Emma Cavalier [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 03 July 2015 09:27
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Subject: Re: A3+ scanner for 30x40cm x-ray plates of paintings

Hi Anna

We have an Epson Expression 10,000 XL with trannie hood. We scan all our x-rays using Silverfast (Ai, didn’t bother with the x-ray version) at 100% and 300dpi and Conservation stitch and balance them in NIPS/VIPS software, which is more accurate than Photoshop’s merge function.
You’re more than welcome to come over the road and try it out for comparison.
The only annoyance is it is slightly smaller than our plates, so if the overlap is too small we occasionally have to scan a strip and Cons have to stitch these first.

Emma
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From: "AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of "Arca, Anna" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: "AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:39
To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: A3+ scanner for 30x40cm x-ray plates of paintings

Hi Ori,

Thank you for replying, hope all is well.

I agree the Epson scanner won't probably deliver the dynamic range and overall quality we need.
Epson doesn't even provide any Density info for the transparencies lid.
It would just be interesing to try it because, as far as I know, is the only A3+ scanner for transparencies that runs with updated drivers compatible with new Macs or PCs.

I've checked the Metis DRS. 750 and it's impressive, but it seems like it scans only reflective media. Do you know if it can be used for film too? maybe with additional accessories?

Best,
Anna





Anna Arca
Photographer
The National Gallery
Trafalgar Square
London
WC2N 5DN
Tel:  020 7747 2544 - 2314

Please note, I am part-time and only work Thursdays and Fridays
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From: AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on behalf of Ori.sade.pro [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
Sent: 26 June 2015 11:36
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Subject: Re: A3+ scanner for 30x40cm x-ray plates of paintings

Hi Anna,



It should be fairly easy to test an expression scanner, any Epson rep. Should provide you with a device fir testing.
Though, You can't compare the Creo's dynamic range to the Epson's one.

Going with photography, Kaiser offer a version of their repro stand with very strong light table ( we have it in our studio).

You should also check Metis DRS. 750. I believe it will be the optimal solution.

Do tell us what you find out,

Ori Sade (we met at the rijks conference)
HC Editions.
Scan. Print. Mount. Art


On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:48, Arca, Anna <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Thank you Malcom for suggesting this.

We should get a demo soon with an 80Mp back that as you said would be fine for 600ppi, so it would partially cover our requirements.

Did you ever get a chance to see x-ray scans produced with this process?


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From: AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Malcolm Raggett
Sent: 26 June 2015 09:04
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A3+ scanner for 30x40cm x-ray plates of paintings

Anna,

Have you considered photographing the plates rather than scanning? An 80Mp back will meet your 600ppi spec. and would be a lot quicker than scanning. You could get to 1200ppi by stitching multiple shots. Just a thought‽

Malcolm Raggett



On 25 Jun 2015, at 17:36, Arca, Anna <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm researching scanners for our 30x40cm x-ray plates.

Until now we have been using highly specialized scanners, specifically the Fuji Lanovia 550 and the Kodak Creo EVERSMART SUPREME II.
However, they are not longer compatible with current OS versions and their maintenance is becoming increasingly challenging.

We are aiming to scan regularly at 600ppi and less often at 1200ppi.

Does anybody know about any more recent scanner that would perform well in terms of reliability, image quality and speed?

At the moment we only found the Epson Expression 11000 XL PRO ( http://www.filmscanner.info/en/EpsonExpression11000XL.html ) that has good reviews but it's not a dedicated system for transparencies and the datasheet provides very limited info.

Does anybody have any experience with it? or can suggest an x-ray scanning service, possibly in London, that uses that scanner to do some tests?


Many thanks,

Anna



Anna Arca
Photographer
The National Gallery
Trafalgar Square
London
WC2N 5DN
Tel:  020 7747 2544 - 2314

Please note, I am part-time and only work Thursdays and Fridays

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