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Re: IPTC / EXIF

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Ben Rubinstein <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:24:59 +0100

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 > Sorry to stick my hand up - but embedding metadata is not something one 
usually gets praise for !

So you should.

And so nicely keyworded that I would also have found this image if I was 
looking for (among other things) "chess", "corridors", or.... "lunatics".

No comment.

More usefully - also on Mac, you can use the command line tool "mdls" to apply 
to an image (or any other file) to output all the fields extracted by the 
'spotlight' indexer, so you can see just how it's mapped the various IPTC 
fields.  (On the NPG, we repeat values using multiple terms from different 
vocabularies to maximise coverage, so it's harder to see exactly where it 
picked up what; but it includes at least one of
	Copyright Notice or Rights --> kMDItemCopyright
	Caption-Abstract or Description --> kMDItemDescription
	Subject or Keywords --> kMDItemKeywords
	City, or Creator Address+Creator City+Creator Postal Code --> kMDItemCity
	Headline ("kMDItemHeadline")
	Title or Object Name  --> kMDItemTitle
	Artist or Creator or Credit or Source  --> kMDItemAuthors, kMDItemContributors
	By-line or Caption Writer or Writer-Editor --> kMDItemAuthors
	Instructions or Special Instructions --> kMDItemInstructions
	Country or Creator Country or Country-Primary Location Name --> 
kMDItemCountry

Apparently not picked up included
	Usage Terms
	Intellectual Genre
	Creator Work URL
	URL
	Web Statement
	Author's Position
	By-line Title
	Creator Work Email



On 17/06/2015 11:18, Angela Murphy wrote:
> Great to see these discussions. Glad you found an NMSI photo. Will gladly take credit for that as we were embedding data back when I managed the Science Museum's first major NOF-funded digitisation project in the early 2000s (it included the MMW project).
>
> Sorry to stick my hand up - but embedding metadata is not something one usually gets praise for !
>
> Angie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Ben Rubinstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/06/2015 09:08, Mike Ellis wrote:
>>> Wonders: is there a tool for searching a whole folder / network / etc for
>>> embedded data?
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> (I've never used it in anger, had to track this down, but it turns out that) on MacOS, "Spotlight" (the system that indexes disk for searching) reads and indexes IPTC data.
>>
>>  From a quick test against an NPG image, it doesn't pick up all the fields, but it picks up quite a lot.  It maps them to some more generic fields of its own.
>>
>> In the Finder user interface, do "Find", ignore the nice easy search box, use the "(+)" below it, and from the options select "Other..." - and then see if you can spot the options that correspond to IPTC tags.
>>
>> You can also access it on the command line using "mdfind" with syntax such as:
>>     mdfind "kMDItemHeadline == NPG*"
>>     mdfind "kMDItemKeywords == *music*"
>>
>> (You might be pleased to know that the latter command, which I expected to find the test NPG image I was looking for, also turned up an NMSI image (from making the modern world) that I didn't know was still on my disk - which probably dates back to your days there.... when you were still a believer in IPTC?!?
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Ben

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