Hi Dan,
I appreciate your cautions and caveats. I for one am of the 'State Capitalist' school while others organising the event prefer the term 'State Socialist' when referring to the countries of the former Soviet Union and its satellites plus the former Yugoslavia. The terminology is contentious, and we have referred to this in the footnote attached to our recent Work, Employment and Society' E-special (attached). The caveat we apply here is " Countries, societies and work practices in the region are more often than not referred to by authors of the reviewed articles as either post-socialist, post-communist or post-Soviet. Our review has retained authors’ preferences whenever possible. It is nonetheless important to point out that these different terms are significant, carrying often ideologically loaded meanings or an implicit bias toward views developed in the West and particularly the English-speaking world, during the Cold War. It would therefore be philologically as well as ethically more appropriate to employ terms which are both historically more accurate and more in tune with
local usage such as post-socialism, particularly for Eastern European popular democracies; and post-Soviet, for the Russian Federation and other successor states of the Soviet Union."
I know this doesn't solve the dilemma, which is rooted, of course, in the Stalin-Trotsky split, but at least helps explain why ways through the dilemma in a subjective sense are very difficult.
best wishes,
Martin Upchurch
Professor of International Employment Relations
Middlesex University Business School
The Burroughs
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From: Dan Gallin [[log in to unmask]]
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To: Martin Upchurch
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Subject: [SPAM: 209.000] Re: Post-Socialist Economies, Nationalistic Conflicts and Labour
14.05.15
Dear Martin,
I think references to "post-socialist economies"
and "post-socialist Europe" are problematic since
they assume that there have been at some time
"socialist economies" and a "socialist Europe". I
believe that this has not been the case.
I am sure you are aware that even before 1991 the
description (or self-description) of the USSR and
the States of the Soviet bloc as "socialist" was
controversial. Much of independent Marxist
research, and others, described the system
operating in these countries more accurately as
another form of society, neither capitalist nor
socialist (bureaucratic collectivism), or else as
State capitalism. It is highly debatable whether
any "socialist States" have ever existed in
history so far. The issue here is the meaning of
socialism, which is itself open to debate, but
there is a historical record, theoretical and
practical, framing the definition which should not be ignored.
Would you now describe China, Vietnam, Laos or
Cuba as "socialist"? all of them are moving very
fast towards authoritarian forms of capitalism
while the single party is attempting to maintain
total control of society by administrative
methods (police and military) to the benefit of
capitalist enterprise. That leaves North Korea.
Paraphrasing Karl Marx, I would say that if this
is socialism I am not a socialist.
I am of course aware that before 1991 both the
propaganda of the USSR and its allies and the
conservative Right were unanimous in describing
the Soviet system a "socialist" The Communists,
in their Stalinist version, tried to legitimise
their system by appropriating the symbols and the
language of the historical socialist movement-
The conservative Right attempted to discredit the
socialist movement by identifying and
amalgamating it with the reality of the USSR and
of Communist rule wherever it was able to
exercise power. This was, and remains,
conceptual embezzlement of the worst kind. To
accept this consensus is to give socialism a bad
name and to give credibility to its worst enemies.
It would have been much better if your choice of
terminology would not have pre-empted any
political conclusions and would not have imposed
from the outset a specific interpretation of the
past and present nature of these societies. The
UN has already, years ago, found a term which
side-steps this issue; their documents refer to
"centrally administered economies".
Dan Gallin
At 13:20 14.05.2015, you wrote:
>Post-Socialist Economies, Nationalistic
>Conflicts and Labour in Central-Eastern Europe
>and the Former Soviet Union Workshop
>Friday 29 May, 9.30 to 18.00
>Middlesex University, London NW4 4BT, Hendon
>Campus, College Building, room C114
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>For further information, and to register at the workshop, please contact:
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>Programme outline
>9.30 10.00 Registration and coffee
>Welcome by Professor Richard Croucher (MUBS
>Director of Research) and Dr Claudio Morrison (PLSG Convenor)
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>10.00 - 11.45
>Session 1: Protests and Trade Unions in
>Post-Socialist Europe: what prospects for Labour?
>Chair: Olga Cretu
>o Ukraine: between competing nationalisms and
>competing imperialisms, Volodymyr Ishenko
>(Centre for Social and Labour Research, Kiev);
>o Social Protests between Spontaneity and
>Organisation: the case of the 2014 Bosnia
>Uprising’, Goran Markovic (East Sarajevo University, Sarajevo Plenum);
>o Labour protests in Russia: protection of
>labour rights or revolt against the power?, Petr
>Bizyukov (Centre for Social and Labour rights, Moscow);
>o Trade unions in Poland: Pathways into the
>21st century, Dr Vera Trappman (University of Leeds)
>
>11.45 12.00 Coffee break
>
>12.00 13.20
>Session 2: Post-Socialist Europe between crises
>and conflict: The Politics of Nationalism
>Chair: Hanna Danilovich
>o Passive Revolutions of the XXI
>Century: capitalist restoration and nationalist
>conflicts in post-socialist Europe, Dr Claudio Morrison (Middlesex University)
>o Conflict in the post-communist Yugoslavia:
>the case of Serbia: An examination of the
>consequences of the varying political discourse
>of nationalism from Tito through to the
>neoliberal order of today, Dr. Jelena Timotijevic (University of Brighton)
>o Russian external threats and the ‘enemy
>within’: government policies and public
>responses, Biziukova (Levada Analytical Centre, Moscow)
>
>13.20 14.20 Lunch break
>
>14.20 15.45
>Session 3: The Political Economy of
>Post-Socialism: Economics, Debt and Conflict (1)
>Chair: Marian Rizov
>o How Can We Explain Continuing Dysfunction in
>Post Socialist Economies?, Professor Martin Upchurch (Middlesex University);
>o The Polish "beggar imperialism" and uneven
>development of the Eastern Europe, Dr Filip
>Ilkowski (Institute of Political Science, Warsaw)
>o Social Polarisation - history or politics?
>The case of Ukraine, Dr Daryna Grechyna (Economics, Middlesex University)
>
>15.45 16.00 Coffee break
>
>16.00 17.00
>Session 4: The Political Economy of
>Post-Socialism: Economics, Debt and Conflict (2)
>Chair: Martin Upchurch
>o Ukraine’s Economy of Debt, Professor John
>Grahl (economics, Middlesex University)
>o The Russian Federation and its
>‘neighbourhood’: A Eurasian Economic Space?, Dr
>Hanna Danilovich (LWO, Middlesex University)
>
>17.00 17.40
>Plenary Session:
>The way forward: Prospects and challenges for
>future research and social impact
>Discussant: Richard Croucher
>
>
>Martin Upchurch
>Professor of International Employment Relations
>Middlesex University Business School
>The Burroughs
>Hendon
>London NW4 4BT
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